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#499 – Gary Gallagher: American Civil War, Slavery, Lincoln, Grant & Lee

Explore episode Jul 28, 2026

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Best and Worst Presidents

At 2:30:09 · chapter starts 2:20:07

Chancellorsville is framed as the key to understanding both Lee's genius and his fatal flaw. Hooker arrived with 135,000 men to Lee's 64,000, executed a near-perfect flanking maneuver, and then stopped. On May 1, 1863, when the fighting started, Hooker ordered a retreat into a defensive position and surrendered the initiative. Lee, with characteristic audacity, divided his army three times in the face of a far more powerful foe, sent Jackson on an 11-mile flank march, and won a battle he had absolutely no business winning. The cost was staggering — 13,000 Confederate casualties versus 17,500 Union in a battle Lee needed to win cheaply. Stonewall Jackson was mortally wounded by his own men. And the psychological result was that Lee's soldiers came to believe they could not lose to the Army of the Potomac — a belief that made Pickett's Charge possible, if not inevitable.

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