The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

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Secretary Pete Buttigieg: The American Dream Is DEAD. We're Running Out Of Time To Fix It!

Explore episode Aug 3, 2026

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Could Public Ownership of AI Actually Work?

At 48:16 · chapter starts 46:06

Bartlett raises Bernie Sanders's proposal for 50% public ownership of AI companies, and Buttigieg engages seriously with the principle while questioning the mechanism. A public share of profits — perhaps via regulation rather than board seats — makes sense because AI was trained on publicly generated data and built on the DARPA-funded internet. The aviation safety analogy illuminates his preferred model: the FAA does not build aircraft but sets the rules that produced zero commercial fatalities across 4 billion passenger journeys during his tenure. He then invokes Keynes's prescient 1930 essay, which predicted a 10-15 hour work week by 2030 based on automation productivity — a productivity forecast that has come true, but whose predicted leisure dividend has not arrived, proving that better outcomes require deliberate policy rather than technological inevitability.

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