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Ex-Military Hacker: The Secret World Of Government Surveillance - Bill Thompson - #1131

Explore episode Aug 1, 2026

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Is DOGE Really a Mess?

At 27:48 · chapter starts 25:17

The conversation pivots to DOGE and Elon Musk's government efficiency push. Chris describes his interview with Sam Korkos, the Treasury's CIO, who explained the Frankenstein patchwork of 16 incompatible legacy systems underpinning federal finance. Bill goes further with a firsthand account from his last military posting, advising the general overseeing all U.S. Army offensive cyber development. The budget dysfunction was breathtaking: a general who failed to spend every dollar of his annual allocation risked being fired. By July, if $100 million was still unspent, everyone would scramble to burn through it on arbitrary courses and conferences before September's fiscal year end. The actual mission — meeting the president's National Intelligence Priority Framework requirements — was secondary. As long as the money was spent and the reporting numbers could be fudged to a plausible threshold, it was 'successful.' Bill's view: a general who delivered full mission effects at 70% of budget should be getting promoted, not threatened.

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