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JRE MMA Show #183 with Rico Verhoeven

Explore episode Aug 4, 2026

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The Rematch, Usyk's Next Move, and Free Agency

At 14:30 · chapter starts 13:50

With the Usyk-Wilder fight reportedly being targeted and no rematch officially signed, Rogan and Rico dissect the politics of Usyk's next move. Rogan points out that Usyk shifted his dance card from Fury and Dubois to Wilder immediately after the Verhoeven fight — a clear sign the fight was harder than anticipated. Rico is careful not to demand a rematch for its own sake; he wants it because there's a real story, real unfinished business, and real justice to be served. He's a free agent, he has offers from major organizations across every combat sport, and he's taking his time. The WBC interim champion Ajit Kabayel also entered the ring after the fight, adding more chaos to the landscape. But the Usyk rematch, Rogan argues, is the obvious commercial and narrative choice.

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Jason Statham Brokered a World Title Fight

JRE MMA Show #183 with Rico Verhoeven · Aug 4, 2026 Sports

Rico texted Jason Statham during the Canelo-Crawford fight. Statham showed Rico's highlight videos to promoters. Two days later, Rico was on a call about fighting Anthony Joshua. When Joshua pulled out, Rico pitched Usyk himself — Undisputed vs. Undisputed. Usyk said yes in two weeks. The whole thing started with one text.

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