The Joe Rogan Experience

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JRE MMA Show #183 with Rico Verhoeven

Explore episode Aug 4, 2026

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Recovery Modalities, Bernard Hopkins, and Training as Mental Health

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The conversation broadens into longevity and recovery science. Rogan lists his daily stack: cold plunge every morning, regular sauna, 4-5 sessions of red light therapy weekly, and 3-4 hyperbaric chamber sessions per week when diligent. Rico confirms he does cold plunge almost daily. Rogan adds a memorable observation: you can get out of shape but you can't easily get back in — the key is staying in it continuously. Bernard Hopkins, who fought at a world championship level at 50, is their shared example of what iron discipline and consistent training can produce over a lifetime. Rico connects training to mental health: it's the one time where you're working on yourself alone, phone off, music on, no obligations. Rogan frames this as the momentum principle — discipline gets you started, but a streak makes discipline feel natural.

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