Frankel predicts photonic (optical) computing — using photons instead of electrons — will be the key disruptor to Nvidia's dominance in AI chips, with major energy efficiency implications for data centers.
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Frankel predicts photonic (optical) computing — using photons instead of electrons — will be the key disruptor to Nvidia's dominance in AI chips, with major energy efficiency implications for data centers.
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Nvidia looks invincible today — just as Intel once did. Frankel believes photonic computing, chips using photons instead of electrical signals, will be the disruptor. Optical fiber already handles all connectivity in data centers. The last frontier is the chip itself. When it arrives, the energy consumption argument against AI collapses.
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