From the Nobu dinner where Flow was first pitched to a16z to the actual investment took 6 months, with the investment now approaching its 3-year anniversary.
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From the Nobu dinner where Flow was first pitched to a16z to the actual investment took 6 months, with the investment now approaching its 3-year anniversary.
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The formal origin of the a16z-Flow partnership can be traced to a dinner at Nobu in Miami. Andreessen had spotted a Wall Street Journal piece about Neumann deploying capital into residential real estate — he called, they met again, and eventually Horowitz joined for what became a 7-hour dinner. DG (David George) and Chris Dixon were also at the first gathering. Neumann arrived wanting to discuss lessons from WeWork; Andreessen told him to skip it — they already knew more about his mistakes than he might expect. What emerged instead was a genuinely honest conversation about Neumann's psychology. Horowitz had watched the WeWork story carefully and knew its emotional architecture well. He named the thing Neumann needed to hear: there are founders who will manufacture a crisis if they don't have one, because the feeling of walking back into a building you've just saved from extinction is intoxicating. Horowitz knew this feeling himself. His warning was clear — don't chase it [1] — Ben Horowitz "At a 7-hour dinner that sealed the a16z partnership, Ben Horowitz delivered one blunt warning: don't chase the high of saving a burning com…" 45:55 . The conversation turned to what Horowitz and Andreessen were genuinely good at that complemented Neumann: assembling tech teams, filtering which of six ideas are worth pursuing, the things Neumann acknowledged weren't his core strengths.
Two iconic Silicon Valley business models give opposite advice: Microsoft says never vertically integrate, run horizontally across everything. Apple says always vertically integrate or you can't control the user experience. Andreessen argues that to deliver Flow's vision end-to-end, vertical integration was the only path — even if it meant a VC fund owning real estate.
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