University of Berlin: ~1/4 of all Nobel laureates
At its peak, the University of Berlin produced approximately one-fourth of all Nobel laureates before its destruction under the Nazis.
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The State of American Research and the Brain Drain Risk
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Dubner challenges Diermeier on the innovation narrative, noting that top researchers are being poached by private sector hyperscalers and that foreign researchers are increasingly reluctant to come to or remain in the US. Diermeier pushes back on anecdote-driven alarm while acknowledging the structural concerns. The private-sector recruitment of AI researchers is not unprecedented — it mirrors earlier talent flows around the birth of Google and auction theory — and tends to ebb and flow. The harder question is whether a sustained funding and political environment could trigger a genuine brain drain. Diermeier's verdict: right now it's a flesh wound [1] — Daniel Diermeier "My sense is, is that it's a bit of a flesh wound right now. If it continues for longer, that would really be destructive because we cannot …" 53:15 . But he reaches for a historical parallel that is genuinely alarming: the University of Berlin, once home to a quarter of all Nobel laureates, was destroyed by the Nazis, creating the scientific diaspora that built American science — from the Manhattan Project to the birth of computing. America's scientific dominance is a product of being a talent magnet. Losing that status would be civilizationally significant.
The University of Berlin Cautionary Tale
The University of Berlin had a quarter of all Nobel laureates at its peak. The Nazis destroyed it, creating the exodus of Einstein, von Neumann, and Fermi to the US. America's scientific dominance was built on that diaspora — and it could be lost.
NIH Funding: A Flesh Wound Now, Potentially Fatal Later
Current federal disruptions to research funding are survivable — for now. But Diermeier is clear: America cannot remain a scientific superpower without sustained funding and the ability to attract global talent. The window to fix this is not infinite.
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