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#482 – Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Explore episode Oct 1, 2025

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VK origins & engineering

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The origin story of VK is a masterclass in self-directed learning under constraints. Durov started coding at 10 because he didn't have enough video games and the scarcity forced creativity — a theme that echoes through the whole episode. He built turn-based strategies for himself, then more sophisticated games for classmates, including a five-in-a-row AI that he trained to beat him consistently so he could then beat human opponents effortlessly. At St. Petersburg State University, he created a student portal with digitized exam answers, lecture notes, photo albums, friend lists, and blogs — essentially a social network before he had seen Facebook. After a classmate returning from an American university showed him Facebook, Durov realized he already had most of the technology, and that the key insight Facebook offered was not what to add but what to eliminate for scale. He launched VK (VKontakte, meaning 'in touch') in 2006, spending roughly two weeks building the entire initial version alone — acting simultaneously as backend engineer, frontend engineer, designer, customer support, and marketing. As VK grew past a million users, the systems needed to scale, requiring Nikolai to return from his postdoc position in Germany and rewrite the core data engines in C and C++. The result was a platform that, by 2009, loaded faster than Facebook even in Silicon Valley — a fact that fascinated Zuckerberg himself when Durov visited that year. The DDoS attacks that accompanied VK's growing popularity were Durov's introduction to a world of bad actors that would become a constant companion throughout his career.

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