Snapshot · All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
A Ramp and Revelio Labs study of over 21,000 US firms found that the highest AI spenders grew headcount roughly 10% in the two years following AI adoption, with entry-level headcount rising even faster at 12%.
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Friedberg opens with a provocative declaration: 'There is no job loss with AI.' He argues the media cannot abandon this narrative because doing so would destroy their credibility, and that politicians amplify it to justify socialist intervention. [1] — David Sacks "The prevailing narrative says AI is destroying jobs. The Ramp and Revelio Labs study of 21,000 companies says the opposite: the more you ad…" 34:40 Sacks cites the Ramp and Revelio Labs study of 21,000 US firms: companies that spent the most on AI grew headcount roughly 10% in two years and entry-level headcount grew 12%. No category of jobs is being wiped out in the data. Jason pushes back — customer support, data entry, cab drivers — but Friedberg challenges him to show present evidence, not future predictions. The Klarna saga illustrates the point: the company made headlines for replacing customer service with AI, then reversed the decision after one year. Sacks provides the nuanced final synthesis: in the US, Level 1 customer support jobs were largely outsourced to the Philippines long ago; what's at risk isn't American jobs so much as the entry-level outsourcing work done in other countries. Jason and Sacks agree that job displacement (not destruction) will happen, that AI-adopting companies will hire more rather than less, and that the Cambrian explosion of startups in America means the US benefits while low-skill export economies bear the brunt.
The prevailing narrative says AI is destroying jobs. The Ramp and Revelio Labs study of 21,000 companies says the opposite: the more you adopt AI, the faster you hire. AI-heavy firms grew headcount 10% on average. Entry-level jobs rose 12%. The job loss panic is a political lever, not an economic reality — at least not yet in the data.
In the Ramp/Revelio study, entry-level positions grew fastest among AI-intensive firms at 12%, contradicting predictions that AI would wipe out entry-level jobs.
Klarna got massive press for replacing its whole customer service department with AI. One year later, they reversed the decision. The brand discovery: customers need to know a human is available. CEO aura-farming for the AI hype cycle — then quietly walking it back — is a pattern the media won't cover because it destroys the narrative they need.
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