Sayash Kapoor's team built evaluations used by Anthropic that were fully saturated with the release of Claude Opus 4.5, demonstrating rapid AI capability gains.
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Sayash Kapoor's team built evaluations used by Anthropic that were fully saturated with the release of Claude Opus 4.5, demonstrating rapid AI capability gains.
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The conversation turns to the track record of AI prediction. Casey notes that watching benchmarks get saturated repeatedly has made him more inclined to trust lab pronouncements. Kapoor counters with a cautionary tale from history: from the 1990s to 2010s, the entire AI research community dismissed neural networks as unserious — you could count the true believers on two hands. It took people like Fei-Fei Li, Geoffrey Hinton, Yann LeCun, and Yoshua Bengio — later Turing Award winners — to keep the faith. Kapoor suggests the current all-in bet on transformer architectures could be the new groupthink, with genuinely breakthrough architectures being sidelined. Kokotajlo's response: the AI community has been right to be bullish, and every claimed wall keeps getting smashed.
The AI research community once dismissed neural networks as a joke for decades, only to be proven catastrophically wrong. Kapoor warns the same dynamic may be playing out today with transformer-based models — an entire field potentially missing the next architectural breakthrough.
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