Snapshot · The Rest Is Politics
Denmark built the world's first offshore wind park in 1991, a technology once ridiculed as naive that now competes on price with coal and gas globally.
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Dan Jørgensen uses a remarkable anecdote to illustrate the grid problem viscerally: when he was Danish minister, Denmark would sometimes produce so much wind energy that the German grid couldn't take it. The result? German taxpayers paid Danish operators to switch their turbines off — at the same time Danish taxpayers were being told they needed to subsidise those very turbines. [1] — Dan Jørgensen "Sometimes the German taxpayers' money would be spent to pay us to stop the wind turbines because their grid was not able to take it in. So …" 37:15 This is grid curtailment in practice, and it reveals that the biggest danger to the European energy transition is not a lack of renewable generation capacity but a lack of transmission capacity to deliver that electricity where it's needed. Tidal power, raised by listener James, is addressed briefly: Jørgensen sees it as a future technology with real potential but notes it remains tiny compared to wind and solar today.
When Denmark built the world's first offshore wind park in 1991, the reaction was ridicule. Three decades later, offshore wind competes on price with coal and gas globally and is central to energy strategies from Britain to Asia. The lesson: back new technologies early, even when they look absurd.
Data centres already consume 2.5% of all EU energy and that share is on course to double within five years. Jørgensen's solution is not to stop building them but to mandate that they use renewable energy and recapture excess heat to warm homes — turning a liability into a grid asset.
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