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You Aren't Defined By Your Financial Mistakes

Explore episode Jul 1, 2026

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Caller 3 — Susan: Retirement Withdrawal Rates and the 4% Rule Rant

At 33:30 · chapter starts 28:40

Susan, a 62-year-old divorcee living with a partner and carrying $1.5 million in traditional and Roth IRAs, calls terrified about running out of money. She's living on $2,000/month when she could safely withdraw $10,000/month. Dave does live math: at 12% average mutual fund returns, pulling 8% leaves 4% in the account — matching inflation and never touching the principal. George reveals the 4% rule was created in a 1994 study with bond-heavy portfolios and pessimistic market assumptions, and that a respected CFP found over two-thirds of 4% retirees finish 30 years with more than double their starting money. Dave erupts: the rule is 'hope-stealing' propaganda from financial Pharisees who can't do sixth-grade math. He owns zero bonds at 65 and is defiant about it.

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