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Talking Dateline: Secrets Unmasked

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Kelly's Role and the Arson Conviction Fallout

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The arson scheme drew in Paul's girlfriend Kelly, who was arrested at a Kroger parking lot during a child handoff — tasers pointed at her — before investigators realized she was more victim than perpetrator. Her face was obscured in the police interview footage because she was ultimately not charged. In the interview room, a female detective begins to doubt whether Kelly was even the woman in the security footage, noting physical discrepancies. The legal outcome for Paul, however, was deeply unsatisfying: he received only misdemeanor charges and no jail time for the arson, the result of a deceased key witness, pandemic-era judge changes, and a prosecution eager to resolve the backlog. A civil case yielded a $400,000 judgment against him — but Tim Uehlinger doubts it was ever paid.

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25 years of silence

Talking Dateline: Secrets Unmasked · Jun 24, 2026

Witness Steve Gates kept silent about Regina Hicks's murder for nearly 25 years before finally coming forward, claiming he lived in fear of Paul the entire time.

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Steve Gates Breaks His Silence After 25 Years

Talking Dateline: Secrets Unmasked · Jun 24, 2026 True Crime

Steve Gates watched Paul drive Regina Hicks's car into a pond in 2001 and said nothing for nearly 25 years. He lived in fear that Paul's network in the small town would make his life impossible. When he finally came forward, his testimony was the single factor that delivered justice.

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