Snapshot · Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
AI researcher Roman Yampolskiy believes there is a 99.9% chance superintelligent AI will kill humanity, while Ben Goertzel believes AGI will usher in a DMT-esque utopian era.
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Two researchers anchor opposite ends of the AI futures spectrum. Roman Yampolskiy — recently on Joe Rogan and interviewed for the documentary — states flatly that we have already unlocked the technology to build superintelligent systems, they have no reason to keep humans alive, and our extinction probability is around 99.9%. Ben Goertzel, living off-grid in Vancouver and connected to researchers worldwide, is working as fast as possible toward AGI because he believes it will print anything you want, deliver virtual realities, and produce something like a permanent DMT parade. Both have been thinking about this for 30 years. Both are deadly serious. The cognitive dissonance of holding both positions in mind simultaneously is, Milo suggests, the only honest place to stand.
Roman Yampolskiy believes superintelligent AI will kill 99.9% of humanity because it has no reason to keep us alive. Ben Goertzel is racing to build AGI because he thinks it will usher in a DMT-esque utopia. Both are serious researchers. Both cannot be right. And nobody is sure which one is wrong.
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