The Louis Theroux Podcast

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S8 EP4: Cara Delevingne discusses getting sober, engagement rumours, and being Karl Lagerfeld's muse

Explore episode Jun 29, 2026

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The Music: Not Normal, BJ Burton, and Simon Fuller's Rejected Makeover

At 52:51 · chapter starts 52:10

The conversation pivots to the music itself. Louis describes the sonic territory: plaintive melodies colliding with industrial distortion, experimental and unpredictable — like The Tunnel, Cara offers. Co-produced with BJ Burton, who she describes as the architect of the sounds she had to occasionally pull back from (too much distortion). She writes alone and then collaborates in the studio. Then Louis surfaces a brilliant piece of music industry history: before modelling broke, Cara had a development deal with Simon Fuller, the man who managed the Spice Girls. He liked her songs but wanted to cut her hair, dye it green, and rename her either Spike or Spark. She turned it down. Music was always going to happen, just on her own terms.

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Simon Fuller, Spike, Spark, and the Name She Refused

S8 EP4: Cara Delevingne discusses getting sober, engagement… · Jun 29, 2026 Music

Before modelling took off, Cara had a shot at a music career via Simon Fuller, the man behind the Spice Girls. He liked her songs but wanted to cut her hair, dye it green, and rename her Spike — or possibly Spark. She turned it down because music was too precious to hand over to someone else's vision. She always knew she'd do it, just not like that.

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