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Why Everyone Is Drowning In Debt (and how to get out) - Caleb Hammer - #1123

Explore episode Jul 13, 2026

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What Financial Milestone Makes People Happiest?

At 49:31 · chapter starts 49:24

A clip from the Iced Coffee Hour featuring Kevin O'Leary is played, in which O'Leary argues that $5 million liquid in T-bills is the only true marker that an entrepreneur has made it and safeguarded their family. Caleb largely agrees with the $5M target — applying the 4% rule, that yields roughly $60,000 a year and lets you survive almost any emergency including a serious illness — but pushes back on T-bills as the vehicle. For anyone with time on their side, index funds averaging 8-10% real returns will grow that million far faster than low-yield government securities. He also makes the broader philosophical point that the only genuine happiness money can buy is security: the knowledge that almost nothing life throws at you is financially catastrophic. Luxury and fun spending are moments of happiness, not the durable kind. That $5M number is the threshold where security becomes real.

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