The Rest Is Football

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England v Argentina & France v Spain - who reaches the final?

Explore episode Jul 14, 2026

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Can England Stop Messi? Mikel and Joe's Playing Experience

At 22:17 · chapter starts 18:10

This chapter is the emotional and intellectual heart of the England preview. Mikel John Obi speaks from lived experience: playing against Messi with Chelsea meant an entire week of tactical preparation, and every time they still felt powerless once the ball hit his feet. Joe Cole adds tactical nuance — in Messi's prime, if you ever had him one-on-one, the defender was gone, so you needed a supporting player behind the first defender at all times. Alan Shearer, who floats the idea of man-marking Messi, raises Jed Spence as a potential candidate for the role, prompting laughter and pushback. The panel acknowledges the rules of the game were different when Messi was younger, allowing more physical defending, but agree the principle of double-teaming still applies.

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