Side Stories: Meatballs & Murder
A groomsman shot two people at a Wisconsin wedding after being confronted for eating meatballs with his bare hands — and he's now looking at 25 years.
Last Podcast On The Left
Side Stories: Meatballs & Murder
A groomsman shot two people at a Wisconsin wedding after being confronted for eating meatballs with his bare hands — and he's now looking at 25 years.
TL;DR
Henry Zabrowski and Eddie Larson serve up a characteristically chaotic Side Stories episode packed with wild true crime and offbeat news. A dead newborn found in a porta-potty at Electric Forest Music Festival kicks things off [1] — Henry Zabrowski "A newborn was found dead in a porta-potty at Electric Forest Music Festival, complete with placenta and umbilical cord — discovered by the …" 09:21 , followed by "Mexican Batman" duct-taping bike thieves to telephone poles in Jalisco [2] — Henry Zabrowski "In Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, a vigilante called Mexican Batman has been duct-taping alleged bike thieves to telephone poles, writing 'rater…" 22:12 , a New York grandmother suspected of poisoning her daughter and four grandchildren amid a custody dispute [3] — Henry Zabrowski "Amy Steadman, a 64-year-old grandmother in Mechanicsville, NY, is suspected of poisoning her daughter and four grandchildren, then killing …" 30:15 , and a Wisconsin groomsman who shot two wedding guests over meatballs [4] — Eddie Larson "A Wisconsin groomsman eating meatballs with his bare hands was told to use a plate by a female guest. He punched her, went to his car, got …" 43:47 . The episode closes with China's autonomous self-driving toilet and a digression into human foie gras. Key takeaway: always let the man eat his meatballs in peace.
Henry Zabrowski and Eddie Larson cover the week's strangest true crime and news stories on Side Stories: a dead newborn found in a porta-potty at Electric Forest, Mexican Batman tying thieves to telephone poles in Jalisco, a NY grandmother suspected of poisoning her daughter and four grandchildren, a Wisconsin groomsman shooting two people over meatballs, China's autonomous self-driving smart toilet, and listener emails.
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The episode opens with an ad for the upcoming Evil Dead: Burn horror film, followed by a Southern New Hampshire University sponsorship read pitching online degree programs. Henry and Eddie then introduce themselves — Henry Zabrowski and Eddie Larson — and briefly riff on a viral letter about cowboy masculinity and furries before welcoming listeners to Side Stories. Eddie is wearing a Ghana jersey after a successful live show in London, Ontario, and the hosts tease that today's episode will be a welcome return to fun, light stories after weeks of heavier content. The irony of that promise is immediately apparent.
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Henry sets the scene from the live show they just performed in London, Ontario — a city he notes is the self-proclaimed serial killer capital of North America, home to four simultaneous killers between 1967 and 1985: the Balcony Strangler, the Chambermaid Slayer, and the Mad Slasher. Eddie pushes back, noting that Detroit and Camden are right there, but Henry is impressed by the sheer volume and variety. From there, Henry relays a bleak local story about a woman named Dusty Bowers who abandoned her newborn in the snow-covered woods. When police investigated, she claimed a 'dream' had shown her where the baby was — conveniently the exact spot she had left it. The Canadian police believed her, retrieved the still-living baby, wrapped it like evidence, threw it in a truck, and it died. Henry delivers this with equal parts horror and exasperation. The whole saga ends with the hosts marveling at the audacity of a killer who then wrote a novel about it.
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Everybody at the London, Ontario live show wanted Henry to cover this one: a dead newborn discovered in a porta-potty at Electric Forest, the famous EDM festival. The entire birth 'rig' — placenta, umbilical cord, all of it — was left behind, suggesting the mother immediately returned to the festival after giving birth alone. The mother has never been found. Henry and Eddie riff on the festival lineup (Excision, String Cheese Incident, Passion Pit, T-Pain) with darkly comic band-name jokes before arriving at genuine empathy: the sanitation worker who drains the festival toilets made the discovery. Henry argues this man deserves a GoFundMe more than anyone — he has the worst job in America, and it just got infinitely worse. Nobody's talking about him.
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Henry delivers a trio of sponsor reads in his uniquely chaotic fashion. The Acorns read touts the app's 14 million customers and $27 billion in saved funds, promising a $5 bonus for new sign-ups. The Squarespace read involves jokes about rib carving and corrupting young men. The IXL read is the most personal — Henry describes his daughter Carmi's chocolate emergencies and Wendy's struggles with American history as taught in school, making the case for personalized online learning. Each read is technically functional but thoroughly digresses into Henry's domestic comedy.
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This is the episode's feel-good story — or at least its most enthusiastically endorsed one. In Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, a figure called Mexican Batman (possibly a small group, based on the multiple vehicles spotted) has been apprehending alleged bike thieves: duct-taping them to poles, giving them black eyes and bloody noses, writing 'Ratero' on their foreheads, and posting pink signs describing their crimes. The Mexican government is unhappy, and the accused thieves claim to be victims — but the community is rallying around the vigilante as a response to rampant crime. Eddie then introduces the even wilder sideshow: female vigilantes in Michoacán who carry assault rifles, built a homemade tank, and set up roadblocks to fight the New Generation Cartel. Henry closes the segment by officially declaring Mexican Batman a hero on behalf of the Last Podcast Network and urging him to email [email protected].
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The hosts pivot to the Mechanicsville, NY case: Amy Steadman, 64, was found dead in her apartment along with her daughter Sarah Myers, 44, and four grandchildren — Harper, Hudson, and twins Gavin and Grace Iceland. Police Chief William Rabbit says evidence strongly suggests Steadman orchestrated a group poisoning before killing herself, with one child showing signs of 'sharp force injuries,' suggesting she stabbed one when poison wasn't enough. A letter was found. The theory is that the estranged father was about to gain some form of custody, and Steadman — in a very New York grandmother way — decided no one could have the grandchildren if she couldn't keep them. Henry riffs darkly about Italian grandmothers and omertà before Eddie brings up Nanny Doss, the 'Giggling Granny,' who killed 11 family members by arsenic and is the historical prototype for this kind of crime. Henry promises a Miseducation of Ed Larson episode on her.
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The next story bleeds from the grandmother segment: a man in Alabama who strangled his girlfriend and dragged her into the woods, only to die of a massive heart attack mid-drag, collapsing beside her body in the fetal position. His truck was left running with the door open; the trail of drag marks led investigators to both bodies. A passerby who spotted them initially assumed they were mannequins. Henry immediately zooms out to the systemic: 38% of Alabama's adult population is morbidly obese (fourth fattest state after West Virginia, Mississippi, and Louisiana), and 44% of obese Americans are below the poverty line — a food desert problem. Henry is careful not to let this get too serious, repeatedly reminding himself and Eddie to 'keep it light.' An obituary had already been posted calling him a 'country boy' before it emerged he was a murderer. Henry delivers a deadpan cardio lecture: you can't just do hard physical things if you've never trained for them.
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The episode's signature story: at a Milwaukee wedding, a groomsman was caught eating meatballs with his hands. When a female guest — the bride's cousin — told him to use a plate, he punched her. He then walked to his car, retrieved a gun, returned, and shot the woman in the arm and leg and another man in the back of the neck. Both survived. He's facing 25 years. Henry and Eddie spiral into empathy for the guy (probably drunk, probably old friends-vs-new-life wedding dynamics), then a full meatball-etiquette debate: were they sauced? Because if they weren't sauced, you're wrong to fight him. Eddie suggests future weddings should serve bolognese instead — harder to eat with your hands. Henry caps it by saying the man should have simply been boxed up the meatballs and given them to him. He left a cash envelope addressed to the groom on his way out.
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The meatball shooting fully derails the episode into a cooking show. Henry explains his method: bake at 475°F for 20 minutes to get a shell without frying, over-egg the mixture, add a splash of half-and-half, and adjust breadcrumbs by feel alone. Eddie counters that he fries his meatballs for the shell and that he cracks two eggs into his mashed potatoes while still hot, which thickens them up beautifully. Both men agree this is the heart of the show. The cooking tangent is interrupted by the Boll and Branch summer sale ad (20% off with code LEFT) and the Chime banking ad, both delivered with the hosts' characteristic enthusiasm for chicken thighs and sleeping like a 'freshly laid chicken.'
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Eddie brings out the episode's tech story: U-Ban, a Chinese technology firm, has built an autonomous self-driving toilet for people with limited mobility. It comes to your bed, washes and wipes you, uses ultraviolet sterilization to kill bacteria, has Roomba-like navigation technology, and empties itself into an actual toilet. Henry is immediately obsessed, imagining riding it in loops while doing the mail. Then the bomb drops: it can't process solid waste, only urine. Henry is furious. He's willing to pay $13,000 — even the higher end of the price range — if it can handle poop and climb stairs. Eddie points out that it has a grinder, but apparently not for that purpose. The segment ends with a spiraling discussion about urine particles, toilet lid etiquette, and a developmentally disabled man whose family wraps the bed in layers of rubber sheets to manage nighttime urine — all somehow connected.
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Henry reads a standout listener email responding to last week's human foie gras thought experiment. The listener cites NIH research: regular human liver steatosis sits at 5% fat, but Grade 3 severe steatosis exceeds 67% — higher than traditional goose foie gras. So medically, a morbidly obese human liver could match foie gras fat ratios. However, human livers harbor parasitic flukes like Clonorchis sinensis and carry prion risk, making consumption both medically and morally disqualifying. The listener signs off with a note to the FBI agent inevitably reading this email. Eddie then shares his in-flight orca documentary highlight: a pod of orcas, unable to wave-wash a seal off a large iceberg, collectively headbutted the iceberg until it fractured. They then ate the seal. Henry finds this deeply impressive.
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Henry and Eddie wrap up with a full slate of announcements. The JK Ultra Tour has only two shows left — Tulsa on July 17th and Oklahoma City on July 18th, the latter available as a two-week livestream for those who couldn't attend. The Redway show returns October 24th at the Mateo Community Center with special network guests. Eddie then burns through his own upcoming stand-up dates: Bethlehem PA, Newark NJ, City Winery New York (co-headlining with Kirsten Michelle Sills), Plano TX, the Comedy Store's Belly Room in LA (only 10 tickets left), and two Chicago shows including a new Friday late-night slot. August brings Dead Men Tell Some Tales at D23 weekend at Dynasty Typewriter. Rob's new Twitch channel @roboki gets a plug after they watched the Backrooms YouTube series live last night. Henry and Eddie sign off with 'Hail Satan' and a reminder to be the Mexican Batman your neighborhood deserves.
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The hosts hand off to a cross-promotional ad for Morbid Podcast, described by hosts Elena and Ash as a show covering true crime, spooky history, and the unexplained with 'research, empathy, humor, and a few creative expletives' — two episodes weekly and a monthly bonus. The episode then concludes with a LifeLock sponsorship read promising guaranteed restoration services and up to 30% savings on the first year at lifelock.com/podcast.
- Ratero
- Spanish slang for 'thief' or 'pickpocket'; used by Mexican Batman as the label written on the foreheads of alleged bike thieves he duct-taped to poles.
- Steatosis
- Abnormal accumulation of fat in the liver cells (also called 'fatty liver'); in the episode, Grade 3 severe steatosis means fat makes up 67% or more of liver tissue.
- Hepatocyte
- A functional liver cell; the episode contrasts healthy hepatocytes with fat deposits in steatosis when making the case that a human liver can reach foie gras-level fat ratios.
- Prions
- Misfolded proteins that can cause fatal neurodegenerative diseases and are resistant to normal sterilization; cited in the episode as a reason not to eat human liver tissue.
- Clonorchis sinensis
- A parasitic liver fluke found in mammals (including humans) that can cause cancer; cited by a listener's email as a reason human foie gras would be dangerous to consume.
- Omertà
- The Mafia code of silence — a strict oath never to cooperate with authorities or divulge secrets; Henry invokes it when comparing old-country Sicilian culture to modern Italian-American posturing.
- Foie gras
- A French luxury food product made from the fatty liver of a force-fed duck or goose; the episode's thought experiment asks whether a morbidly obese human liver could reach the same fat ratio.
- Family annihilator
- A type of killer — usually a family member — who murders an entire household, often before or instead of killing themselves; the episode uses it to categorize Amy Steadman and compare her to Nanny Doss.
- Vigilante
- A private individual who enforces the law without legal authority; used throughout the Mexican Batman segment to describe both the Batman figure and the female fighters in Michoacán.
- Killdozer
- Informal term for a heavily armored or weaponized bulldozer used in confrontational situations; Henry uses it to describe the homemade tank built by female vigilantes in Michoacán.
- EDM
- Electronic Dance Music; a broad genre of electronic music genres played at large festival events like Electric Forest, characterized by synthesized beats and DJ-driven sets.
- Marine snow
- Organic particles (dead organisms, feces, detritus) that slowly fall from upper ocean layers to the seafloor, feeding deep-sea ecosystems; cited in the listener email about orca feeding habits.
- Strangulation
- The act of killing by compressing the throat; used repeatedly in the Alabama murder-heart attack story as a darkly comic illustration of the physical demands of violent crime.
- Ultraviolet sterilization
- A disinfection method using UV light to kill bacteria and pathogens; mentioned as a feature of U-Ban's autonomous toilet unit.
- Cishet
- Short for cisgender heterosexual — someone whose gender identity matches their birth sex and who is attracted to the opposite sex; used casually multiple times by the hosts in comedy bits.
- Gag order
- A court order prohibiting someone from publicly discussing a case or legal matter; referenced in the episode regarding YouTuber Reckless Ben's ongoing legal situation.
- Minifigs
- Short for LEGO minifigures — the small, iconic plastic characters included with LEGO sets; central to the Reckless Ben legal dispute briefly mentioned by Henry.
Chapter 1 · 00:00
Sponsor Reads & Intro
The episode opens with an ad for the upcoming Evil Dead: Burn horror film, followed by a Southern New Hampshire University sponsorship read pitching online degree programs. Henry and Eddie then introduce themselves — Henry Zabrowski and Eddie Larson — and briefly riff on a viral letter about cowboy masculinity and furries before welcoming listeners to Side Stories. Eddie is wearing a Ghana jersey after a successful live show in London, Ontario, and the hosts tease that today's episode will be a welcome return to fun, light stories after weeks of heavier content. The irony of that promise is immediately apparent.
Chapter 2 · 02:42
London, Ontario: Serial Killer Capital of North America
Henry sets the scene from the live show they just performed in London, Ontario — a city he notes is the self-proclaimed serial killer capital of North America, home to four simultaneous killers between 1967 and 1985: the Balcony Strangler, the Chambermaid Slayer, and the Mad Slasher. Eddie pushes back, noting that Detroit and Camden are right there, but Henry is impressed by the sheer volume and variety. From there, Henry relays a bleak local story about a woman named Dusty Bowers who abandoned her newborn in the snow-covered woods. When police investigated, she claimed a 'dream' had shown her where the baby was — conveniently the exact spot she had left it. The Canadian police believed her, retrieved the still-living baby, wrapped it like evidence, threw it in a truck, and it died. Henry delivers this with equal parts horror and exasperation. The whole saga ends with the hosts marveling at the audacity of a killer who then wrote a novel about it.
Claims made here
London, Ontario had over four serial killers operating simultaneously between 1967 and 1985, earning it the title of serial killer capital of North America.
London, Ontario claims to have been the serial killer capital of North America from 1967 to 1985, with four killers operating simultaneously — the Balcony Strangler, the Chambermaid Slayer, and the Mad Slasher. Henry points out that Detroit and Camden, NJ were also right there.
London, Ontario claims to have been the serial killer capital of not just Canada but North America from roughly 1967 to 1985, with over four serial killers operating simultaneously.
Chapter 3 · 09:20
Dead Baby Found in Porta-Potty at Electric Forest
Everybody at the London, Ontario live show wanted Henry to cover this one: a dead newborn discovered in a porta-potty at Electric Forest, the famous EDM festival. The entire birth 'rig' — placenta, umbilical cord, all of it — was left behind, suggesting the mother immediately returned to the festival after giving birth alone. The mother has never been found. Henry and Eddie riff on the festival lineup (Excision, String Cheese Incident, Passion Pit, T-Pain) with darkly comic band-name jokes before arriving at genuine empathy: the sanitation worker who drains the festival toilets made the discovery. Henry argues this man deserves a GoFundMe more than anyone — he has the worst job in America, and it just got infinitely worse. Nobody's talking about him.
Claims made here
A dead newborn, along with placenta and umbilical cord, was found in a porta-potty at Electric Forest Music Festival by the sanitation worker draining the unit.
A newborn was found dead in a porta-potty at Electric Forest Music Festival, complete with placenta and umbilical cord — discovered by the sanitation worker draining the unit. The mother has never been found.
A newborn was found dead in a porta-potty at Electric Forest Music Festival, along with the placenta and umbilical cord, discovered by the sanitation worker draining the toilets.
The man who drains festival porta-potties discovered a dead baby inside one at Electric Forest — and nobody is talking about how that affects him. Henry makes the case that he deserves a GoFundMe more than anyone else in this story.
Chapter 5 · 22:12
Mexican Batman Duct-Tapes Thieves to Poles in Jalisco
This is the episode's feel-good story — or at least its most enthusiastically endorsed one. In Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, a figure called Mexican Batman (possibly a small group, based on the multiple vehicles spotted) has been apprehending alleged bike thieves: duct-taping them to poles, giving them black eyes and bloody noses, writing 'Ratero' on their foreheads, and posting pink signs describing their crimes. The Mexican government is unhappy, and the accused thieves claim to be victims — but the community is rallying around the vigilante as a response to rampant crime. Eddie then introduces the even wilder sideshow: female vigilantes in Michoacán who carry assault rifles, built a homemade tank, and set up roadblocks to fight the New Generation Cartel. Henry closes the segment by officially declaring Mexican Batman a hero on behalf of the Last Podcast Network and urging him to email [email protected].
Claims made here
Mexican Batman in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco duct-tapes alleged bike thieves to telephone poles, writes 'ratero' on their foreheads, and leaves pink signs describing their crimes.
Female vigilantes in Michoacán, Mexico have been carrying assault rifles and built a homemade tank to set up roadblocks against the New Generation Cartel.
In Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, a vigilante called Mexican Batman has been duct-taping alleged bike thieves to telephone poles, writing 'ratero' on their foreheads and leaving pink signs explaining their crimes. The Mexican government is not amused.
A vigilante dubbed 'Mexican Batman' in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco has been duct-taping alleged bike thieves to telephone poles, writing 'ratero' (thief) on their foreheads and leaving pink signs describing their crimes.
In the Mexican state of Michoacán, a band of female vigilantes carrying assault rifles have built a homemade tank and set up roadblocks to fight the New Generation Cartel. Henry calls it the better story.
A group of female vigilantes in Michoacán, Mexico carrying assault rifles built a homemade tank and set up roadblocks to fight the New Generation Cartel.
Chapter 6 · 28:40
NY Grandmother Suspected of Poisoning Daughter and Four Grandchildren
The hosts pivot to the Mechanicsville, NY case: Amy Steadman, 64, was found dead in her apartment along with her daughter Sarah Myers, 44, and four grandchildren — Harper, Hudson, and twins Gavin and Grace Iceland. Police Chief William Rabbit says evidence strongly suggests Steadman orchestrated a group poisoning before killing herself, with one child showing signs of 'sharp force injuries,' suggesting she stabbed one when poison wasn't enough. A letter was found. The theory is that the estranged father was about to gain some form of custody, and Steadman — in a very New York grandmother way — decided no one could have the grandchildren if she couldn't keep them. Henry riffs darkly about Italian grandmothers and omertà before Eddie brings up Nanny Doss, the 'Giggling Granny,' who killed 11 family members by arsenic and is the historical prototype for this kind of crime. Henry promises a Miseducation of Ed Larson episode on her.
Claims made here
Amy Steadman, 64, of Mechanicsville, NY is suspected of poisoning her daughter Sarah Myers, 44, and four grandchildren before killing herself, apparently over a custody dispute with the estranged father.
Nanny Doss, the 'Giggling Granny,' killed four husbands, two children, a sister, her mother, two grandsons, and a mother-in-law — primarily by arsenic poisoning.
Amy Steadman, a 64-year-old grandmother in Mechanicsville, NY, is suspected of poisoning her daughter and four grandchildren, then killing herself — all apparently because the estranged father was about to regain custody. Police found a letter and are not looking for anyone else.
Amy Steadman, 64, of Mechanicsville, NY, is suspected of poisoning her daughter Sarah Myers and four grandchildren, then killing herself, apparently over a custody dispute with the estranged father.
Nanny Doss, the 'Giggling Granny,' killed 11 family members — four husbands, two children, a sister, her mother, two grandsons, and a mother-in-law — primarily by arsenic poisoning. She was one of the only female serial killers to describe a sexual element to her crimes.
Nanny Doss, known as the 'Giggling Granny,' killed four husbands, two children, a sister, her mother, two grandsons, and a mother-in-law, primarily by arsenic poisoning.
Chapter 7 · 34:40
Alabama Man Strangles Girlfriend, Dies of Heart Attack Next to Her
The next story bleeds from the grandmother segment: a man in Alabama who strangled his girlfriend and dragged her into the woods, only to die of a massive heart attack mid-drag, collapsing beside her body in the fetal position. His truck was left running with the door open; the trail of drag marks led investigators to both bodies. A passerby who spotted them initially assumed they were mannequins. Henry immediately zooms out to the systemic: 38% of Alabama's adult population is morbidly obese (fourth fattest state after West Virginia, Mississippi, and Louisiana), and 44% of obese Americans are below the poverty line — a food desert problem. Henry is careful not to let this get too serious, repeatedly reminding himself and Eddie to 'keep it light.' An obituary had already been posted calling him a 'country boy' before it emerged he was a murderer. Henry delivers a deadpan cardio lecture: you can't just do hard physical things if you've never trained for them.
Claims made here
38% of Alabama's adult population is morbidly obese, making it the fourth-fattest state in the US after West Virginia, Mississippi, and Louisiana.
A 44-year-old man from Macon, Georgia strangled his girlfriend and dragged her into the woods in Alabama — then died of a heart attack right next to her. A passerby initially thought they were mannequins. Henry's takeaway: cardio matters.
Henry Zabrowski stated that 38% of the adult population of Alabama is morbidly obese, making it the fourth fattest state after West Virginia, Mississippi, and Louisiana.
Henry and Eddie note that 44% of obese people in America are below the poverty line, connecting high Southern obesity rates to food deserts where a McDonald's value meal is cheaper and more accessible than a salad. They reluctantly keep it 'light' and don't go further.
Chapter 8 · 42:40
The Wedding Meatball Shooting
The episode's signature story: at a Milwaukee wedding, a groomsman was caught eating meatballs with his hands. When a female guest — the bride's cousin — told him to use a plate, he punched her. He then walked to his car, retrieved a gun, returned, and shot the woman in the arm and leg and another man in the back of the neck. Both survived. He's facing 25 years. Henry and Eddie spiral into empathy for the guy (probably drunk, probably old friends-vs-new-life wedding dynamics), then a full meatball-etiquette debate: were they sauced? Because if they weren't sauced, you're wrong to fight him. Eddie suggests future weddings should serve bolognese instead — harder to eat with your hands. Henry caps it by saying the man should have simply been boxed up the meatballs and given them to him. He left a cash envelope addressed to the groom on his way out.
Claims made here
44% of obese people in the US are below the poverty line.
A Wisconsin groomsman eating meatballs with his hands punched a woman who told him to use a plate, retrieved a gun from his car, and shot one person in the arm and leg and another in the back of the neck.
Henry noted that 44% of obese people are below the poverty line, connecting obesity rates to food deserts and economic inequality.
A Wisconsin groomsman eating meatballs with his bare hands was told to use a plate by a female guest. He punched her, went to his car, got a gun, came back, and shot two people. He's now facing 25 years.
A Wisconsin groomsman punched a woman for telling him to use a plate for meatballs, then retrieved a gun from his car and shot two people — one in the arm and leg, one in the back of the neck.
Chapter 9 · 48:20
Meatball Recipe Deep Dive & Ad Break
The meatball shooting fully derails the episode into a cooking show. Henry explains his method: bake at 475°F for 20 minutes to get a shell without frying, over-egg the mixture, add a splash of half-and-half, and adjust breadcrumbs by feel alone. Eddie counters that he fries his meatballs for the shell and that he cracks two eggs into his mashed potatoes while still hot, which thickens them up beautifully. Both men agree this is the heart of the show. The cooking tangent is interrupted by the Boll and Branch summer sale ad (20% off with code LEFT) and the Chime banking ad, both delivered with the hosts' characteristic enthusiasm for chicken thighs and sleeping like a 'freshly laid chicken.'
Claims made here
The Wisconsin groomsman who shot two wedding guests is facing up to 25 years in prison.
Henry and Eddie derail into a passionate meatball masterclass: bake at 475°F for a quick shell, over-egg the mixture, use half-and-half for moisture, and add breadcrumbs by feel. Eddie counters with frying and putting eggs in mashed potatoes.
The Wisconsin groomsman who shot two people at the wedding over a meatball dispute is facing up to 25 years in prison.
Chapter 10 · 55:15
China's Autonomous Self-Driving Toilet
Eddie brings out the episode's tech story: U-Ban, a Chinese technology firm, has built an autonomous self-driving toilet for people with limited mobility. It comes to your bed, washes and wipes you, uses ultraviolet sterilization to kill bacteria, has Roomba-like navigation technology, and empties itself into an actual toilet. Henry is immediately obsessed, imagining riding it in loops while doing the mail. Then the bomb drops: it can't process solid waste, only urine. Henry is furious. He's willing to pay $13,000 — even the higher end of the price range — if it can handle poop and climb stairs. Eddie points out that it has a grinder, but apparently not for that purpose. The segment ends with a spiraling discussion about urine particles, toilet lid etiquette, and a developmentally disabled man whose family wraps the bed in layers of rubber sheets to manage nighttime urine — all somehow connected.
Claims made here
Chinese firm U-Ban has created an autonomous self-driving toilet that comes to the user's bed and cleans them, priced between $4,000 and $13,000, but it cannot handle solid waste.
Chinese tech firm U-Ban built an autonomous self-driving toilet that navigates to your bed and cleans you — but it only handles urine, not solid waste. Henry is livid. He'd pay $13,000 if it could handle poop and climb stairs.
Chinese tech firm U-Ban created an autonomous self-driving toilet for people with limited mobility that comes to your bed and washes and wipes — but it cannot handle solid waste, only urine.
Chapter 11 · 1:01:20
Listener Emails: Human Foie Gras & Orca Teamwork
Henry reads a standout listener email responding to last week's human foie gras thought experiment. The listener cites NIH research: regular human liver steatosis sits at 5% fat, but Grade 3 severe steatosis exceeds 67% — higher than traditional goose foie gras. So medically, a morbidly obese human liver could match foie gras fat ratios. However, human livers harbor parasitic flukes like Clonorchis sinensis and carry prion risk, making consumption both medically and morally disqualifying. The listener signs off with a note to the FBI agent inevitably reading this email. Eddie then shares his in-flight orca documentary highlight: a pod of orcas, unable to wave-wash a seal off a large iceberg, collectively headbutted the iceberg until it fractured. They then ate the seal. Henry finds this deeply impressive.
Claims made here
According to NIH data, human liver fat content in Grade 3 severe steatosis can exceed 67%, which is higher than the fat content in traditional goose foie gras.
Human livers are susceptible to parasitic flukes such as Clonorchis sinensis and prion contamination, making human foie gras medically unsafe to consume.
A listener cited NIH data showing that human livers in severe steatosis can reach 67% fat content — higher than goose foie gras. So yes, it's medically possible for a human liver to become foie gras. No, you shouldn't eat it — parasites, prions, and cannibalism.
According to an NIH-cited medical article, grade 3 severe steatosis in humans means the liver's fat content can reach 67% or more — higher than the fat ratio in traditional goose foie gras.
Eddie watched an orca documentary where a pod of orcas, unable to knock a seal off a large iceberg using waves, collectively headbutted the iceberg until it broke apart so they could eat the seal.
Chapter 12 · 1:04:30
Show Announcements, Tour Dates & Outro
Henry and Eddie wrap up with a full slate of announcements. The JK Ultra Tour has only two shows left — Tulsa on July 17th and Oklahoma City on July 18th, the latter available as a two-week livestream for those who couldn't attend. The Redway show returns October 24th at the Mateo Community Center with special network guests. Eddie then burns through his own upcoming stand-up dates: Bethlehem PA, Newark NJ, City Winery New York (co-headlining with Kirsten Michelle Sills), Plano TX, the Comedy Store's Belly Room in LA (only 10 tickets left), and two Chicago shows including a new Friday late-night slot. August brings Dead Men Tell Some Tales at D23 weekend at Dynasty Typewriter. Rob's new Twitch channel @roboki gets a plug after they watched the Backrooms YouTube series live last night. Henry and Eddie sign off with 'Hail Satan' and a reminder to be the Mexican Batman your neighborhood deserves.
Only two JK Ultra shows remain on the tour — Tulsa on July 17th and Oklahoma City on July 18th, with the final show available as a live stream for two weeks afterward.
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EDM music festival in Michigan where a dead newborn was found in a porta-potty, discussed as the episode's opening true crime story.
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64-year-old grandmother from Mechanicsville, NY, suspected of poisoning her daughter and four grandchildren before killing herself.
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Known as the 'Giggling Granny,' a female serial killer who murdered 11 family members by arsenic poisoning; invoked as the historical precedent for a female family annihilator.
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Live comedy tour approaching its final two shows in Tulsa and Oklahoma City, with a livestream available for the final show.
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YouTuber under a gag order related to a legal dispute involving LEGO bricks and minifigures; Henry promises an eventual on-show interview.
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Chinese technology firm that created the autonomous self-driving toilet for people with limited mobility, priced between $4,000 and $13,000.
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Financial wellness app and episode sponsor; advertised as having 14 million all-time customers who have saved over $27 billion.
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The flagship true crime and comedy podcast on the Last Podcast Network, hosted by Henry Zabrowski and Ben Kissel; this episode is a Side Stories episode hosted by Henry and Eddie.
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Sibling true crime podcast on the network, hosted by Elena and Ash, promoted at the end of the episode.
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Canadian city where Last Podcast did a live show; discussed as the claimed serial killer capital of North America from 1967–1985.
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Mexican state where the Mexican Batman vigilante operates, duct-taping alleged bike thieves to telephone poles in Lagos de Moreno.
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US state where the murder-heart attack story took place; noted as the fourth-fattest state with 38% adult morbid obesity rate.
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Town in upstate New York where Amy Steadman and her family were found dead in a suspected group poisoning.
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Mexican state where a group of female vigilantes carrying assault rifles built a homemade tank to fight the New Generation Cartel.
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London, Ontario had over four serial killers operating simultaneously between 1967 and 1985, earning it the title of serial killer capital of North America.
A dead newborn, along with placenta and umbilical cord, was found in a porta-potty at Electric Forest Music Festival by the sanitation worker draining the unit.
Mexican Batman in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco duct-tapes alleged bike thieves to telephone poles, writes 'ratero' on their foreheads, and leaves pink signs describing their crimes.
Female vigilantes in Michoacán, Mexico have been carrying assault rifles and built a homemade tank to set up roadblocks against the New Generation Cartel.
Amy Steadman, 64, of Mechanicsville, NY is suspected of poisoning her daughter Sarah Myers, 44, and four grandchildren before killing herself, apparently over a custody dispute with the estranged father.
Nanny Doss, the 'Giggling Granny,' killed four husbands, two children, a sister, her mother, two grandsons, and a mother-in-law — primarily by arsenic poisoning.
38% of Alabama's adult population is morbidly obese, making it the fourth-fattest state in the US after West Virginia, Mississippi, and Louisiana.
44% of obese people in the US are below the poverty line.
A Wisconsin groomsman eating meatballs with his hands punched a woman who told him to use a plate, retrieved a gun from his car, and shot one person in the arm and leg and another in the back of the neck.
The Wisconsin groomsman who shot two wedding guests is facing up to 25 years in prison.
Chinese firm U-Ban has created an autonomous self-driving toilet that comes to the user's bed and cleans them, priced between $4,000 and $13,000, but it cannot handle solid waste.
According to NIH data, human liver fat content in Grade 3 severe steatosis can exceed 67%, which is higher than the fat content in traditional goose foie gras.
Human livers are susceptible to parasitic flukes such as Clonorchis sinensis and prion contamination, making human foie gras medically unsafe to consume.
Acorns has over 14 million all-time customers who have collectively saved and invested over $27 billion through the platform.
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