The episode opens with back-to-back sponsor reads. Attio positions itself as an AI CRM that turns emails, calls, and product data into a live business picture and promises round-the-clock revenue agents — 30,000+ companies are already on it. CoreWeave follows with a brand-building spot about powering AI pioneers across medicine, education, and film, before a brief Goldman Sachs Markets Podcast cross-promo. The sequence sets a tech-forward, business-minded tone before Kara and Scott appear.

Recording from the Côte d'Azur, Kara and Scott trade notes on the sweltering Paris heat and the peculiarity of Cannes — Scott from his luxury hotel, Kara in the Vox apartment. The conversation quickly turns to the festival's identity crisis: the ad agencies that once dominated (Sorrell, Levy, Wren) are now sidelined by YouTube creators. Scott marshals fresh data to make the case — roughly 500 creators are at Cannes this year, creator revenues will top $21 billion in 2026, brand creator spend jumped 23% while traditional TV budgets fell 8%, and nano and micro-influencers are capturing 49% of US creator ad spend. Kara floats OnlyFans as their next business venture; Scott gamely agrees. The segment ends with a tease of the Adweek house event and broader reflections on where podcasting is headed — Scott predicts proprietary data sets and interpretation will be the next frontier.

The Reflecting Pool scandal — Trump blaming 'vandals' for his own administration's botched renovation — serves as the jumping-off point for a deeper pattern: the same communications strategy of blame-shifting and fabrication is playing out in Iran. Scott Galloway argues that Trump has handed Tehran something more valuable than a nuclear weapon: control of the Strait of Hormuz ^{[1] — Scott Galloway "He has handed them something more powerful than a nuclear weapon, and that is an ability to choke the carotid artery of the global economy …" 10:23 Play} . The IRGC, he says, knows America has left. With midterms approaching, an unpopular war, no Congressional support, and underestimated Iranian missile resilience, Iran's optimal strategy is simply delay — agree to meet in Switzerland, never close a deal, and wait. Enrichment is already at 60% under the Trump MOU, against the JCPOA's 3.67% cap and zero constraints in the new framework. Reopening the Strait by force would require two carrier strike groups and Marines on Iranian soil, which is politically impossible. Scott concludes the US emerges from this much weaker, Iran much stronger, and the JCPOA will be remembered as one of the more impressive acts of diplomacy of the last 50 years. Kara connects this to Trump's mental state and his pattern of lashing out — arresting people for the Reflecting Pool — as the walls close in.

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The Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan book provides the window: Trump mocking Bezos and Zuckerberg to guests — showing off their groveling texts — while Elon also joined in the mockery. Bezos disparaged his own Washington Post to the president; Zuckerberg had a child write a pro-Trump letter. Kara is disgusted but unsurprised; Scott elevates the analysis. The old order had billionaires buying influence through Citizens United; now, with fortunes of hundreds of billions, these men still feel compelled to kiss the ring — because it's moved from buying influence to paying for protection ^{[1] — Scott Galloway "Bezos told Trump that the Washington Post was his worst investment; Zuckerberg sent a child's letter praising a Trump slogan. Scott Gallowa…" 31:40 Play} . This, Scott says, is what a mob protection racket looks like: Jamie Dimon, the only major CEO willing to occasionally push back, now faces a Justice Department suit against JP Morgan. The discussion extends to why Bezos still owns the Washington Post (a genuine mystery to both hosts) and whether any of these men will find their spine if Democrats win Congress. The answer: probably not until 18-24 months out.

The Sam Altman movie — already $40 million deep, tested in four markets, with a release date in sight — is suddenly homeless. Netflix passed, other studios passed, and Amazon, its backer, dropped it the moment a $50 billion OpenAI investment was announced. Kara has read the script and found it factually loose and dramatically flat; Scott points to a broader trend. He connects it to his own experience: a Netflix show about Big Tech with Rosamund Pike attached, developed by Scott Burns (Bourne Identity) and Rez Media (The Morning Show), was bought in the room — Netflix committed to the entire first season — and then quietly fell apart over script disputes and cast issues. He says Occam's razor probably explains it, but the timing of the Amazon cancellation feels less coincidental. The creative community, Scott argues, has decided America is tired of Big Tech stories — and the second-order risk of angering powerful executives or the president is simply too high. Both hosts agree this is a mistake: the real stories of Bezos, Musk, and Sandberg are more complex and dramatic than anything in Succession, which was only about News Corp — a footnote compared to Big Tech.

With SpaceX shares already down 17% from their peak, Kara reads a listener question that cuts to the heart of the matter: what happens to the stock if Elon Musk is incapacitated? Scott doesn't hedge. The stock is a meme co-led by Musk's persona; without him it collapses. The valuation math is stark — 131x price-to-sales against Apple's 10.5x, Alphabet's 11x, NVIDIA's 39x, Meta's 7.3x, and Amazon's 3.7x. The company itself is essentially a telco in the sky without the personality premium. Scott's actual buy recommendation is Amazon: you get the retail platform, a distant number two in cloud, and the best industrial robotics position in the world (2.5x the total American robot count). If he could short any category right now, it would be a basket of secondary AI players. On the Musk borrowing question, Scott explains that SpaceX has a self-imposed year-long lockup, but Musk can borrow tens of billions against his trillion-dollar stake at any time, using it to overwhelm political campaigns or any other purpose — all without a taxable event.

Triggered by the SpaceX discussion, Scott pivots to a clear-eyed breakdown of how extreme wealth actually works. Jeff Bezos holds $120 billion in Amazon shares and funds his lifestyle entirely by borrowing against that stake at low interest rates — no sale, no taxable event. When he dies, the step-up in basis eliminates capital gains for his heirs entirely. Meanwhile, earners pay 30% tax on every dollar of income. Scott calls this the greatest distinction between the wealthy and the not-wealthy — are you an earner or an owner? His policy prescription: any borrowing against assets should trigger a taxable event on the underlying collateral. He frames the coming decade as a necessary national conversation about what we expect of wealth after 30 years of obsessing over how to create it. The segment is one of the episode's most didactic, but Scott keeps it grounded with concrete numbers and a clear moral argument.

The GLP-1 conversation starts as an aside about SpaceX shorts and longs — Scott says if he had to go long any category it would be GLP-1s — and quickly becomes one of the episode's most substantive health segments. New findings from the American Clinical Oncology gathering show that metastatic cancer growth rates are cut in half in patients on GLP-1s. Potential delays in dementia and Alzheimer's are also being studied. Kara discloses that her cardiologist has already recommended a low dose for her after her stroke. Scott notes that every new GLP-1 study comes back with positive news — which is almost unprecedented for any major medical innovation. Externalities are usually negative (chemo causes leukemia, Big Tech causes polarisation), but GLP-1s keep surprising researchers. Both hosts predict the drug will move from 1 in 8 Americans to eventually 1 in 2, citing shifts in food consumption toward proteins and the market disruption for snack brands.

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This branded content segment from Verizon Business features Sean Rawlinson, owner of Roebling Sporting Club in Brooklyn, talking about the unique sense of community soccer bars create — you walk in not knowing anyone and leave with friends. Rawlinson explains the operational importance of a reliable network during the FIFA World Cup, with multiple games across time zones. Verizon Business is framed as a proud World Cup 2026 sponsor supporting the resilience of small business owners.

Scott's wins-and-fails segment lands two of the episode's most vivid moments. On the win side, the World Cup soft-power story is unexpectedly heartwarming: viral videos of fans from Norway thrilled by Kansas hospitality, the Japanese discovering Chipotle, Scotland fans flooding Boston. NYC's tourism chief compared the boost to hosting eight Super Bowls in six weeks. Scott argues FIFA is among sport's most corrupt institutions but the World Cup itself — the fans, the cultures — is doing what the UN was built to do. Kara adds that Europeans are actively testing American visitors to see if they're Trump voters, and the relief when they're not is palpable. The fail is sharper: a Wall Street Journal investigation found Polymarket built cloned versions of its own site, paid college-age influencers to record fake trades and fake wins, and ran display ads on Pornhub to reach its 70%-male 25-34 audience. Scott is careful to note he has a data partnership with competitor Kalshi and doesn't have full moral clarity on prediction markets generally — but deceptive marketing preying on young men's worst instincts is a clear line.

Kara uses her fail slot to call out the sustained Republican effort to misrepresent James Tallarico's gender identity, noting that Stephen Miller is driving the attack with particular viciousness. She draws a clear line: it's misogynistic, transphobic, and cruel, and she can't wait for these politicians to leave the public stage. The segment is personal and emphatic. Her win pivots sharply in tone: Toy Story 5's enormous opening weekend — theaters are the best-performing media stocks over the last 12 months, Scott notes, crediting Kara's earlier thesis — moves her deeply. She talks about watching all four Pixar films with her younger children and wanting to take them to the cinema. Scott then deploys a series of increasingly terrible Toy Story double-entendre jokes involving Woody, which the producers apparently also find either hilarious or horrifying. Kara, laughing despite herself, bans him from the movie and from her children for the duration of Cannes.

Kara closes by pointing listeners to nyag.com/pivot for questions, and teases a live Pivot recording at the Adweek house and her separate live interview with New York Times leadership at Cannes. She plays a clip from her conversation with Harvey Levin, TMZ's founder, about the outlet's new Washington DC bureau — Levin argues that politics is simply part of pop culture now, since it affects everyone's lives and emanates from the same place as entertainment and sports. Kara endorses the interview warmly, citing TMZ's photos of politicians vacationing during government shutdowns as evidence of genuine breaking news. The episode ends with show credits (producers Laryn Ammons, Zoe Marcus Taylor-Griffin, and Todd Wiseman; engineers Ernie and Todd), a repeat of the Verizon Business World Cup branded content, and a Pure Leaf Mental Focus iced tea ad.