Part 1: USA’s World Cup Collapse, Basebrawls, Jets Optimism, Life in The G-League and ‘The OC’ 20 Years Later | with Gabe York and Zoe Simmons

Part 1: USA’s World Cup Collapse, Basebrawls, Jets Optimism, Life in The G-League and ‘The OC’ 20 Years Later | with Gabe York and Zoe Simmons

Alex Morgan scored just 2 goals in her last 17 World Cup games — yet the US kept starting her as striker right up to their shocking Round of 16 exit.

Aug 7, 2023 1:35:02 Difficulty: Beginner Played

TL;DR

Bill Simmons returns from a three-week break to open a six-pack of hot takes: the US women's soccer team's World Cup collapse, Jaylen Brown's $304M Celtics deal, the NFL running back pity party, Jets optimism vs. reality, the Pac-12's implosion, and ESPN's subscriber crisis. G-League guard Gabe York — one of the stars of the new Prime Video doc "Destination NBA" — then shares his decade-long fight to reach the NBA at age 30, shooting 40% from three but still unsigned. Bill closes with daughter Zoe Simmons breaking down why The OC, 20 years later, crushes modern teen TV. Key takeaway: staying in the G League beats going overseas if your goal is an NBA shot.

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Part 1 of a two-part podcast. Bill Simmons opens with a six-pack of sports topics including the US women's soccer World Cup exit, then interviews G League guard Gabe York about the new Prime Video documentary 'Destination NBA: A G League Odyssey,' and closes with daughter Zoe Simmons on The OC's 20th anniversary.

Chapter list
  • With the anger still fresh, Bill dissects a USWNT disaster that he insists was entirely predictable. The team opened the World Cup beating Vietnam by only 3-0 in a bracket where goal differential mattered enormously — a massive red flag. He traces a pattern of institutional denial around Alex Morgan: she scored just 2 goals in 17 World Cup appearances outside the Thailand blowout, yet she started every minute of every game. Megan Rapinoe, at 37, came on for the final 25 minutes and missed the decisive penalty. Carli Lloyd, serving as a Fox studio analyst, had been calling these problems all summer and was dismissed as unpatriotic — Bill says history has fully vindicated her. He also points to the team's identity confusion: they had real speed in Trinity Rodman, Sophia Smith, and teenage prodigy Alyssa Thompson but inexplicably chose not to use it. The broader lesson, he argues, applies to sports and life: loyalty to past performance — not current form — is a losing strategy. He closes by comparing the team's generational in-between moment to the 2004 USA Olympic basketball squad.

  • Bill introduces Gabe York with genuine warmth — he's been watching the documentary cuts and thinks York is the player who will make viewers reach for their phones to Google his name. York explains he was never originally planned as a documentary subject; a filmmaker approached him before warmups and was won over after a 10-minute conversation. The interview opens out into something much richer: York turning 30 the day before the recording, entering his 9th professional year without a guaranteed NBA spot despite being one of the G League's best offensive players. He shot 40% from three on 11 attempts last season. His peak vertical was 43 inches at Arizona — he still jumps 40. His Slam Magazine top-10 all-time high school mixtape made him a prospect with enormous hype before a family-friend agent — someone he'd known since age 14 — apparently failed to return calls from interested teams for months. The conversation is emotionally honest: York admits the 'why not me?' questions creep in even when he's mentally trained himself to stop asking them, and Bill responds by comparing his own 'should I quit?' crisis at 30 to York's current moment. The G League vs. overseas debate is resolved cleanly: three seasons averaging 16-17 points overseas produced zero NBA invitations; two G League seasons produced two two-way contracts and summer league spots because NBA executives simply don't watch overseas leagues.

  • The episode's warmest segment is also its sharpest piece of TV criticism. Zoe Simmons, born a year and a half after The OC premiered, watched Season 1 as the family rewatched for a Prestige TV podcast project and immediately loved it. Her diagnostic on why: modern TV tries too hard. It shoves in too many plot lines, too many types of characters, too many elements because executives don't trust audiences to stay engaged with a simple, well-executed premise. The OC had a simple premise — outsider boy moves into rich neighborhood, falls for girl next door — and it trusted that premise completely. Zoe's character rankings are definitive: Seth is everyone's favorite, Summer had the best arc from villain to scene-stealer, Ryan and Marissa are both terrible actors though Marissa's obliviousness is the show's most reliable source of anger. They discuss the Oliver plotline (infuriating but effective), the pregnancy arc (a creative mistake but one that produced the Jeff Buckley finale montage), Adam Brody's squandered post-OC film career due to the season's 27-episode schedule, and the pre-smartphone world the show captures that Zoe finds genuinely wistful — a time before plans were over-organized and social life had mystery. The conversation closes on Zoe's current TV landscape: Euphoria (which she distinguishes as a different category), Stranger Things (stalled by the writers' strike), and a landscape that leaves her hungry for exactly the kind of show she's been binge-watching from 2003.

Supermax
An NBA contract extension that allows a team to pay its own player more than any other team can offer, typically the maximum allowed percentage of the salary cap; Jaylen Brown's $304M deal is an example.
Two-way contract
An NBA roster agreement allowing a player to split time between the parent NBA team and its G League affiliate; two-way players are paid less than standard NBA minimums and have limited NBA game eligibility.
G League
The NBA G League is the NBA's official minor-league development system, formerly known as the D-League; players use it as a pathway to NBA roster spots.
Luxury tax
A financial penalty in the NBA imposed on teams whose payroll exceeds a set threshold; teams pay a dollar amount per dollar they are over the line, discouraging excessive spending.
Trade kicker
A contract clause that increases a player's salary by a set percentage if they are traded, making trades more expensive for the acquiring team; Jaylen Brown's extension includes one.
Amnesty clause
A one-time option, used in past NBA CBAs, that allowed a team to waive a player and have his salary not count against the cap, used to escape bad contracts.
CBA
Collective Bargaining Agreement — the contract between a professional sports league and its players' union that governs salaries, revenue sharing, free agency rules, and other working conditions.
Hard Knocks curse
An informal belief that NFL teams featured on the HBO training camp documentary 'Hard Knocks' tend to underperform expectations that season.
Pac-12
A major college athletic conference historically comprising 12 West Coast universities; it collapsed in 2023 as member schools defected to other conferences for better media deals.
Sports czar
Bill Simmons' term for a hypothetical federal or national authority empowered to oversee and regulate all major US sports leagues and college athletics, analogous to a single commissioner.
Combo guard
In basketball, a player who can play both the point guard (ball-handler) and shooting guard positions but is not elite enough at either to be a true starter at one; Gabe York describes himself this way.
Transfer portal
Originally a college sports term for the system allowing athletes to transfer schools more freely; Adrian Wojnarowski used it as an analogy for how NBA players now demand trades after signing max contracts.
Meta
Self-referential; when a TV show or film breaks the fourth wall by incorporating jokes or storylines that comment on its own production or the conventions of the genre.
Chip-on-the-shoulder guys
Bill Simmons' phrase for overlooked, doubted athletes who are highly motivated because they feel they have something to prove — a quality he argues the Miami Heat specifically seek out.
Rim runner
An NBA big man whose primary offensive skill is sprinting toward the basket to catch lob passes and score at the rim; a specific role-player archetype.

Chapter 1 · 04:30

Six-Pack Opens

With the anger still fresh, Bill dissects a USWNT disaster that he insists was entirely predictable. The team opened the World Cup beating Vietnam by only 3-0 in a bracket where goal differential mattered enormously — a massive red flag. He traces a pattern of institutional denial around Alex Morgan: she scored just 2 goals in 17 World Cup appearances outside the Thailand blowout, yet she started every minute of every game. Megan Rapinoe, at 37, came on for the final 25 minutes and missed the decisive penalty. Carli Lloyd, serving as a Fox studio analyst, had been calling these problems all summer and was dismissed as unpatriotic — Bill says history has fully vindicated her. He also points to the team's identity confusion: they had real speed in Trinity Rodman, Sophia Smith, and teenage prodigy Alyssa Thompson but inexplicably chose not to use it. The broader lesson, he argues, applies to sports and life: loyalty to past performance — not current form — is a losing strategy. He closes by comparing the team's generational in-between moment to the 2004 USA Olympic basketball squad.

Claims made here

The US women's soccer team scored 0 goals in their last 2 World Cup games and 1 goal in their last 3 games, and that goal came from a corner kick.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Alex Morgan scored 5 of her 6 goals in the 2019 World Cup against Thailand in a 13-0 game, and scored nothing in 4 games at the 2023 World Cup.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Excluding the Thailand game, Alex Morgan scored only 2 goals in her last 17 World Cup matches.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Jaylen Brown signed a $304 million contract extension with the Boston Celtics.

Bill Simmons no source cited

The Celtics are listed at +470 odds to win the NBA championship on FanDuel.

Bill Simmons FanDuel

The Boston Celtics have made 5 Conference Finals in the last 7 years.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Damien Harris, a solid NFL running back, signed with the Buffalo Bills for just 1 year and $2 million.

Bill Simmons no source cited

The Cleveland Browns' over/under win total for the 2023 NFL season is 9.5 wins, and they are +380 to win the AFC North on FanDuel.

Bill Simmons FanDuel

Taylor Swift played approximately 45 songs per show, each show running over 3 hours, on her Eras Tour.

Bill Simmons no source cited

ESPN once had 100 million cable subscribers at its peak; by 2023 that number had dropped to approximately 76 million, a loss of millions including 3-4 million in the most recent reporting period.

Bill Simmons no source cited

ESPN+ has only 5.5 million standalone subscribers, far lower than expected for a major sports streaming platform.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Sports
Data point 2 in 17

Part 1: USA’s World Cup Collapse, Basebrawls, Jets Optimism… · Aug 7, 2023 Sports

Take away the 13-0 Thailand thrashing and Alex Morgan scored 2 goals in 17 World Cup games. Yet she played 95 minutes in the Sweden match. Bill Simmons draws a direct line from that refusal to confront declining performance to the team's shocking early exit.

Business
Data point 76M

Part 1: USA’s World Cup Collapse, Basebrawls, Jets Optimism… · Aug 7, 2023 Business

ESPN had 100 million cable subscribers at peak. Now they're at 76 million and falling, with ESPN+ at a stunning 5.5 million standalone users. Bill Simmons breaks down how the network that once outbid everyone for everything is now cutting talent and scrambling for a new business model.

Chapter 2 · 45:15

Gabe York Interview

Bill introduces Gabe York with genuine warmth — he's been watching the documentary cuts and thinks York is the player who will make viewers reach for their phones to Google his name. York explains he was never originally planned as a documentary subject; a filmmaker approached him before warmups and was won over after a 10-minute conversation. The interview opens out into something much richer: York turning 30 the day before the recording, entering his 9th professional year without a guaranteed NBA spot despite being one of the G League's best offensive players. He shot 40% from three on 11 attempts last season. His peak vertical was 43 inches at Arizona — he still jumps 40. His Slam Magazine top-10 all-time high school mixtape made him a prospect with enormous hype before a family-friend agent — someone he'd known since age 14 — apparently failed to return calls from interested teams for months. The conversation is emotionally honest: York admits the 'why not me?' questions creep in even when he's mentally trained himself to stop asking them, and Bill responds by comparing his own 'should I quit?' crisis at 30 to York's current moment. The G League vs. overseas debate is resolved cleanly: three seasons averaging 16-17 points overseas produced zero NBA invitations; two G League seasons produced two two-way contracts and summer league spots because NBA executives simply don't watch overseas leagues.

Claims made here

Gabe York shot 40% from three-point range on 11 attempts per game in the G League last season.

Gabe York no source cited

Gabe York's peak recorded vertical jump was 43 inches at the University of Arizona at the end of his junior year.

Gabe York no source cited

Slam Magazine ranked Gabe York's high school mixtape in the top 10 of all time, and he is top 3 in high school dunks of all time according to Ball Is Life.

Gabe York Slam Magazine; Ball Is Life

Chapter 3 · 1:04:07

The OC with Zoe Simmons

The episode's warmest segment is also its sharpest piece of TV criticism. Zoe Simmons, born a year and a half after The OC premiered, watched Season 1 as the family rewatched for a Prestige TV podcast project and immediately loved it. Her diagnostic on why: modern TV tries too hard. It shoves in too many plot lines, too many types of characters, too many elements because executives don't trust audiences to stay engaged with a simple, well-executed premise. The OC had a simple premise — outsider boy moves into rich neighborhood, falls for girl next door — and it trusted that premise completely. Zoe's character rankings are definitive: Seth is everyone's favorite, Summer had the best arc from villain to scene-stealer, Ryan and Marissa are both terrible actors though Marissa's obliviousness is the show's most reliable source of anger. They discuss the Oliver plotline (infuriating but effective), the pregnancy arc (a creative mistake but one that produced the Jeff Buckley finale montage), Adam Brody's squandered post-OC film career due to the season's 27-episode schedule, and the pre-smartphone world the show captures that Zoe finds genuinely wistful — a time before plans were over-organized and social life had mystery. The conversation closes on Zoe's current TV landscape: Euphoria (which she distinguishes as a different category), Stranger Things (stalled by the writers' strike), and a landscape that leaves her hungry for exactly the kind of show she's been binge-watching from 2003.

Claims made here

The OC premiered on August 6, 2003 — 20 years before the recording of this podcast — and its first season contained 27 episodes.

Bill Simmons no source cited

No indexed bits in this chapter.

Show stoppers

Business
Data point 76M

Part 1: USA’s World Cup Collapse, Basebrawls, Jets Optimism… · Aug 7, 2023 Business

ESPN had 100 million cable subscribers at peak. Now they're at 76 million and falling, with ESPN+ at a stunning 5.5 million standalone users. Bill Simmons breaks down how the network that once outbid everyone for everything is now cutting talent and scrambling for a new business model.

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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.

The US women's soccer team scored 0 goals in their last 2 World Cup games and 1 goal in their last 3 games, and that goal came from a corner kick.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Alex Morgan scored 5 of her 6 goals in the 2019 World Cup against Thailand in a 13-0 game, and scored nothing in 4 games at the 2023 World Cup.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Excluding the Thailand game, Alex Morgan scored only 2 goals in her last 17 World Cup matches.

Bill Simmons no source cited

Jaylen Brown signed a $304 million contract extension with the Boston Celtics.

Bill Simmons no source cited

The Boston Celtics have made 5 Conference Finals in the last 7 years.

Bill Simmons no source cited

The Celtics are listed at +470 odds to win the NBA championship on FanDuel.

Bill Simmons FanDuel

Damien Harris, a solid NFL running back, signed with the Buffalo Bills for just 1 year and $2 million.

Bill Simmons no source cited

ESPN once had 100 million cable subscribers at its peak; by 2023 that number had dropped to approximately 76 million, a loss of millions including 3-4 million in the most recent reporting period.

Bill Simmons no source cited

ESPN+ has only 5.5 million standalone subscribers, far lower than expected for a major sports streaming platform.

Bill Simmons no source cited

The Cleveland Browns' over/under win total for the 2023 NFL season is 9.5 wins, and they are +380 to win the AFC North on FanDuel.

Bill Simmons FanDuel

Gabe York shot 40% from three-point range on 11 attempts per game in the G League last season.

Gabe York no source cited

Gabe York's peak recorded vertical jump was 43 inches at the University of Arizona at the end of his junior year.

Gabe York no source cited

Slam Magazine ranked Gabe York's high school mixtape in the top 10 of all time, and he is top 3 in high school dunks of all time according to Ball Is Life.

Gabe York Slam Magazine; Ball Is Life

Taylor Swift played approximately 45 songs per show, each show running over 3 hours, on her Eras Tour.

Bill Simmons no source cited

The OC premiered on August 6, 2003 — 20 years before the recording of this podcast — and its first season contained 27 episodes.

Bill Simmons no source cited