The DOJ killed the original investigation into Epstein's activities in New Mexico before the current investigation was opened.
Trump DOJ Blocks New Probe Over His Dark Past
Trump's DOJ has stonewalled New Mexico's Epstein ranch investigation for 130+ days despite six documented cooperation attempts, with no conceivable legitimate federal reason to block it.
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Trump DOJ Blocks New Probe Over His Dark Past
Trump's DOJ has stonewalled New Mexico's Epstein ranch investigation for 130+ days despite six documented cooperation attempts, with no conceivable legitimate federal reason to block it.
TL;DR
Trump's DOJ is actively blocking New Mexico Attorney General Raul Torres from investigating Jeffrey Epstein's Zoro Ranch, where some of the most severe abuse allegedly occurred. Despite six documented outreach attempts over 130 days — letters, calls, and meeting requests — the DOJ has provided only verbal assurances while withholding unredacted files [1] — Harry Litman "The DOJ's pattern of missed calls, wrong numbers, and forgotten messages isn't incompetence — it's a directed strategy. Harry Litman, who h…" 10:40 . Former federal prosecutor Harry Litman calls it a deliberate strategy of misdirection with no conceivable legitimate federal interest [2] — Harry Litman "There is no conceivable federal interest to trying to keep the New Mexico attorney general from securing justice for the Epstein victims in…" 09:35 . The key takeaway: the DOJ is stringing along a fellow sovereign to protect Epstein-connected individuals, likely including Trump himself [3] — Ben Meiselas "130 days of DOJ stonewalling: New Mexico AG Raul Torres said the DOJ's delay in responding to his records request had lasted 130 days, whic…" 05:37 .
MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas and Talking Feds host Harry Litman report on Donald Trump's DOJ blocking the latest probe relating to his dark past involving the New Mexico Attorney General.
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The editorial portion of the podcast opens with Ben Meiselas framing the story in stark terms: the Trump DOJ is covering up Donald Trump's 'dark and disgusting past' by blocking New Mexico's investigation into Epstein's Zoro Ranch. Meiselas argues that New Mexico — not Epstein Island or Palm Beach — may have been where the most severe abuse took place, making the DOJ's refusal to cooperate especially alarming. He walks through a Reuters report and a detailed timeline from Torres's June 30 letter to Todd Blanche: written correspondence on February 13, a formal letter March 13, a telephone conference attempt April 1, a comprehensive TUI letter May 3, a written follow-up to Blanche May 29, and meeting requests in June — all met with polite verbal assurances and zero actual document delivery. [1] — Ben Meiselas "New Mexico AG Raul Torres sent letters, attempted calls, and submitted formal requests to the DOJ for 130 days — and received nothing but v…" 02:43 Torres publicly called the 130-day delay 'unreasonable under any rule of reason,' while the DOJ's public response — 'we stand ready to provide necessary assistance' — rang hollow against the documented record of non-cooperation. Meiselas connects this to the broader pattern of the Trump DOJ fighting MeidasTouch host Katie Fang's FOIA requests and undermining the Epstein Transparency Act, framing it as the regime re-abusing Epstein's survivors.
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Harry Litman, veteran federal prosecutor and host of Talking Feds, enters the conversation and immediately contextualizes the DOJ's behavior within the broader Trump-era pattern of shutting down state-level justice — comparing it to events in Minnesota and Texas. He points out that 90%+ of American prosecutions occur at the state level, making federal-state cooperation completely routine and its absence here extraordinary. [1] — Harry Litman "There is no conceivable federal interest to trying to keep the New Mexico attorney general from securing justice for the Epstein victims in…" 09:35 What makes New Mexico uniquely revealing, Litman argues, is that unlike cases involving federal agents — where you might at least construct a tortured justification — there is literally no conceivable federal interest in preventing New Mexico from prosecuting Epstein crimes that occurred in New Mexico. He references the 2019 precedent when DOJ official Maureen Comey stepped aside to let New Mexico proceed, noting that today's DOJ isn't just failing to step aside — it's actively blocking a parallel sovereign. [2] — Harry Litman "The DOJ's pattern of missed calls, wrong numbers, and forgotten messages isn't incompetence — it's a directed strategy. Harry Litman, who h…" 10:40 Most damning of all, Litman zeroes in on the DOJ's fake cooperation strategy: giving verbal assurances, then missing calls, losing messages, and producing elaborate excuses. Drawing on his own experience with attorneys general, he flatly states that AG calls don't get lost accidentally — someone at a senior level is directing the stonewall while maintaining the appearance of good faith. He concludes that the DOJ has produced a well-documented record of not wanting Epstein's crimes prosecuted while also not wanting to appear to not want them prosecuted, and that this contradiction is becoming increasingly impossible to sustain.
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With the legal analysis established, Meiselas zooms out to the political strategy, tracing Trump's delay-and-distract tactic back to 2016, when Trump kept promising a press conference to address Melania's immigration status — 'two weeks, two weeks, two weeks' — until a new scandal eclipsed the story. The Epstein DOJ obstruction, he argues, is the same play run at much higher stakes. Every daily scandal provides fresh distraction material, allowing the administration to drag things on indefinitely while the news cycle churns. Meiselas then poses the episode's central question directly to Litman: what do citizens, the New Mexico AG, and media networks actually do against a regime that seems to actively enjoy covering up child sex trafficking rings? [1] — Ben Meiselas "Trump has used the same playbook since 2016: promise a press conference, delay indefinitely, let another scandal overtake the story. Ben Me…" 13:34 Harry Litman's answer is to keep the spotlight blazing and use every institutional lever available — including the imminent Todd Blanche confirmation hearing, which Litman identifies as a moment of real vulnerability. The DOJ has been pretending to cooperate; a Senate confirmation hearing is exactly the kind of mirror that exposes that pretense. Litman argues that the combination of sustained media attention, an organized victim community, and Blanche's confirmation creates pressure the DOJ's fake-cooperation theater cannot indefinitely withstand.
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The episode winds down with a friendly mutual promotion segment: Meiselas plugs Harry Litman's Talking Feds YouTube channel, noting its recent growth, and invites viewers to comment that 'Ben sent you' on Litman's videos. Litman jokes that they keep count. Meiselas then calls on listeners to help the MeidasTouch channel reach 7 million subscribers. A Midas Plus promo follows, advertising ad-free episodes, daily recaps from Ron Filipowski, and exclusive content at midasplus.com. The episode closes with an extended OrderlyMeds ad promoting GLP-1 weight-loss medications via a virtual telemedicine process, directing listeners to orderlymeds.com/podcast — with the standard disclaimer that compounded medications are not FDA approved.
- FOIA
- Freedom of Information Act — a federal law that gives the public the right to request access to records from federal government agencies.
- Epstein Transparency Act
- Legislation requiring the release of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein's criminal network; Ben Meiselas alleges the Trump DOJ is undermining it.
- Zoro Ranch
- Jeffrey Epstein's 8,000-acre ranch in New Mexico, alleged to be a site of systematic sexual abuse and the subject of the New Mexico AG's current investigation.
- Acting Attorney General
- A temporary appointee who carries out the AG's duties before Senate confirmation; Todd Blanche holds this role in the episode's context.
- Parallel sovereign
- In U.S. federalism, a reference to states operating as independent legal authorities alongside the federal government; both can prosecute crimes without double-jeopardy issues.
- TUI letter
- A 'Touhy' or 'TUI' letter — a formal legal request under federal regulations (Touhy regulations) for a federal agency to produce documents or witnesses in a state legal proceeding.
- On the hustings
- Engaged in active campaigning or public advocacy; used by Harry Litman to describe Epstein victims who remain publicly organized and vocal.
- Western District of Pennsylvania
- One of the two federal judicial districts in Pennsylvania; Harry Litman served as a top federal prosecutor (U.S. Attorney) there.
- Main Justice
- Informal term for DOJ headquarters in Washington D.C., as distinct from U.S. Attorney's offices in the field; Harry Litman worked there in a senior capacity.
- Squirrelly
- Evasive, unpredictable, or devious in behavior; used by Harry Litman to describe the DOJ's pattern of dodging New Mexico's cooperation requests.
- Turf battle
- A jurisdictional dispute between two government bodies — such as federal and state prosecutors — over which has primary authority to pursue a case.
- Co-conspirators
- People who participated in planning or carrying out a crime alongside the primary offender; here referring to individuals allegedly involved in Epstein's trafficking network.
Chapter 2 · 02:43
Ben Meiselas: Trump's DOJ Is Blocking New Mexico's Epstein Probe
The editorial portion of the podcast opens with Ben Meiselas framing the story in stark terms: the Trump DOJ is covering up Donald Trump's 'dark and disgusting past' by blocking New Mexico's investigation into Epstein's Zoro Ranch. Meiselas argues that New Mexico — not Epstein Island or Palm Beach — may have been where the most severe abuse took place, making the DOJ's refusal to cooperate especially alarming. He walks through a Reuters report and a detailed timeline from Torres's June 30 letter to Todd Blanche: written correspondence on February 13, a formal letter March 13, a telephone conference attempt April 1, a comprehensive TUI letter May 3, a written follow-up to Blanche May 29, and meeting requests in June — all met with polite verbal assurances and zero actual document delivery. [1] — Ben Meiselas "New Mexico AG Raul Torres sent letters, attempted calls, and submitted formal requests to the DOJ for 130 days — and received nothing but v…" 02:43 Torres publicly called the 130-day delay 'unreasonable under any rule of reason,' while the DOJ's public response — 'we stand ready to provide necessary assistance' — rang hollow against the documented record of non-cooperation. Meiselas connects this to the broader pattern of the Trump DOJ fighting MeidasTouch host Katie Fang's FOIA requests and undermining the Epstein Transparency Act, framing it as the regime re-abusing Epstein's survivors.
Claims made here
Epstein is accused of sexually assaulting women and girls at his New Mexico ranch for nearly three decades.
New Mexico AG Torres's investigation into Epstein's Zoro Ranch has been open for nearly five months with no results announced, due to the DOJ withholding documents.
The DOJ failed to respond to New Mexico's February 2026 request for unredacted Epstein files for 130 days.
New Mexico AG Torres sent six documented requests to the DOJ between February and June 2026 for Epstein records, none of which produced the requested materials.
Reuters reported that New Mexico's top law enforcement official accused the DOJ of hindering their Epstein investigation.
While Epstein Island and Palm Beach get most media coverage, Ben Meiselas argues New Mexico's Zoro Ranch was the site of some of the most severe abuse — and the original DOJ investigation there was killed in real time. The new state probe is now being strangled the same way.
New Mexico AG Raul Torres sent letters, attempted calls, and submitted formal requests to the DOJ for 130 days — and received nothing but verbal promises. The DOJ told Reuters it 'stands ready to help' while ignoring every specific outreach attempt.
The DOJ previously killed the initial investigation into Epstein's activities in New Mexico, and is now again blocking state-level efforts to reopen it.
Epstein is accused of sexually assaulting women and girls at his Zoro Ranch in New Mexico for nearly three decades.
New Mexico's AG sent his first written request for unredacted Epstein files to the DOJ in February 2026 and received no substantive response for months.
New Mexico AG Raul Torres said the DOJ's delay in responding to his records request had lasted 130 days, which he called unreasonable under any rule of reason.
New Mexico's AG sent letters, attempted phone conferences, and submitted formal requests to the DOJ from February through June 2026, all without receiving the requested records.
Chapter 3 · 07:30
Harry Litman: 'Department of Obstruction' Has No Legal Justification
Harry Litman, veteran federal prosecutor and host of Talking Feds, enters the conversation and immediately contextualizes the DOJ's behavior within the broader Trump-era pattern of shutting down state-level justice — comparing it to events in Minnesota and Texas. He points out that 90%+ of American prosecutions occur at the state level, making federal-state cooperation completely routine and its absence here extraordinary. [1] — Harry Litman "There is no conceivable federal interest to trying to keep the New Mexico attorney general from securing justice for the Epstein victims in…" 09:35 What makes New Mexico uniquely revealing, Litman argues, is that unlike cases involving federal agents — where you might at least construct a tortured justification — there is literally no conceivable federal interest in preventing New Mexico from prosecuting Epstein crimes that occurred in New Mexico. He references the 2019 precedent when DOJ official Maureen Comey stepped aside to let New Mexico proceed, noting that today's DOJ isn't just failing to step aside — it's actively blocking a parallel sovereign. [2] — Harry Litman "The DOJ's pattern of missed calls, wrong numbers, and forgotten messages isn't incompetence — it's a directed strategy. Harry Litman, who h…" 10:40 Most damning of all, Litman zeroes in on the DOJ's fake cooperation strategy: giving verbal assurances, then missing calls, losing messages, and producing elaborate excuses. Drawing on his own experience with attorneys general, he flatly states that AG calls don't get lost accidentally — someone at a senior level is directing the stonewall while maintaining the appearance of good faith. He concludes that the DOJ has produced a well-documented record of not wanting Epstein's crimes prosecuted while also not wanting to appear to not want them prosecuted, and that this contradiction is becoming increasingly impossible to sustain.
Claims made here
The DOJ has fought MeidasTouch host Katie Fang's FOIA requests for Epstein records.
The Trump DOJ is undermining the Epstein Transparency Act.
Over 90% of prosecutions in the U.S. occur at the state level, making federal-state cooperation routine.
In 2019, DOJ official Maureen Comey stepped aside to allow New Mexico to proceed with its Epstein investigation.
There is no conceivable legitimate federal interest in preventing New Mexico from prosecuting Epstein crimes that occurred within New Mexico.
MeidasTouch host Katie Fang has been fighting the DOJ for Epstein records through FOIA requests — and the DOJ has been fighting back. Ben Meiselas frames this as the Trump regime attacking and assaulting Epstein survivors and their advocates rather than pursuing justice for them.
Ben Meiselas said the Trump regime is completely undermining the Epstein Transparency Act through its pattern of obstruction and non-cooperation.
The DOJ is not simply sitting on its hands — it is actively blocking a state sovereign from prosecuting crimes that occurred within its own borders. Former federal prosecutor Harry Litman says there is zero legitimate federal reason for this, which means the obstruction is deliberate and politically motivated.
Harry Litman noted that over 90% of prosecutions occur at the state level, making federal-state cooperation standard — making DOJ's refusal to assist New Mexico extraordinary.
In 2019, when the DOJ was actually prosecuting Epstein, Maureen Comey stepped aside and told New Mexico to take the case. Today's DOJ has reversed that — and unlike 2019, it is not even pursuing its own Epstein investigation, making the block on New Mexico's probe entirely unjustifiable.
Harry Litman stated there is no conceivable legitimate federal interest in preventing New Mexico from prosecuting Epstein crimes that occurred within its own borders.
Despite repeatedly telling New Mexico officials it would cooperate, the DOJ never provided the requested records — a pattern Harry Litman called deliberate misdirection.
The DOJ's pattern of missed calls, wrong numbers, and forgotten messages isn't incompetence — it's a directed strategy. Harry Litman, who has worked with attorneys general, points out that AG calls don't get lost unless someone at the top is ordering them to.
The DOJ doesn't want Jeffrey Epstein's crimes prosecuted, but it also doesn't want to look like it doesn't want them prosecuted. That contradiction has produced a elaborate theater of fake cooperation that Litman says is now well-documented and increasingly impossible to hide.
Harry Litman stated that Epstein victims have received zero justice from the DOJ, which has also actively tried to prevent justice being done by parallel state sovereigns.
Trump has used the same playbook since 2016: promise a press conference, delay indefinitely, let another scandal overtake the story. Ben Meiselas argues the DOJ's 130-day stonewall of the New Mexico Epstein probe is that exact same tactic, applied to cover up child sex trafficking.
Ben Meiselas argued that the DOJ's delay tactics mirror Trump's long-standing playbook of dragging issues out until the news cycle moves on.
Chapter 4 · 13:40
Ben Meiselas: The Run-Out-the-Clock Playbook and What To Do About It
With the legal analysis established, Meiselas zooms out to the political strategy, tracing Trump's delay-and-distract tactic back to 2016, when Trump kept promising a press conference to address Melania's immigration status — 'two weeks, two weeks, two weeks' — until a new scandal eclipsed the story. The Epstein DOJ obstruction, he argues, is the same play run at much higher stakes. Every daily scandal provides fresh distraction material, allowing the administration to drag things on indefinitely while the news cycle churns. Meiselas then poses the episode's central question directly to Litman: what do citizens, the New Mexico AG, and media networks actually do against a regime that seems to actively enjoy covering up child sex trafficking rings? [1] — Ben Meiselas "Trump has used the same playbook since 2016: promise a press conference, delay indefinitely, let another scandal overtake the story. Ben Me…" 13:34 Harry Litman's answer is to keep the spotlight blazing and use every institutional lever available — including the imminent Todd Blanche confirmation hearing, which Litman identifies as a moment of real vulnerability. The DOJ has been pretending to cooperate; a Senate confirmation hearing is exactly the kind of mirror that exposes that pretense. Litman argues that the combination of sustained media attention, an organized victim community, and Blanche's confirmation creates pressure the DOJ's fake-cooperation theater cannot indefinitely withstand.
Claims made here
Todd Blanche's Senate confirmation hearing as Attorney General was scheduled within days of the episode's recording.
With courts sidelined and the DOJ blocking state investigations, the most powerful remaining tool is sustained media and public pressure. Harry Litman argues that exactly this kind of spotlight — combined with confirmation hearings — is what makes the DOJ's position untenable.
Acting AG Todd Blanche's confirmation hearing is just days away. Harry Litman sees this as a moment of vulnerability: the DOJ has been pretending to cooperate, and Senate confirmation is exactly the kind of mirror that exposes that pretense.
Harry Litman noted that Todd Blanche's Senate confirmation hearing was just days away, meaning the Epstein obstruction story would inevitably resurface in that context.
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Cast
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Deceased sex trafficker whose Zoro Ranch in New Mexico is the subject of the AG's investigation being blocked by the DOJ.
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Alleged to have connections to Epstein; his DOJ is accused of blocking the New Mexico investigation to protect him and others.
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New Mexico Attorney General who opened the Epstein Zoro Ranch investigation and whose cooperation requests the DOJ has stonewalled for 130 days.
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Acting U.S. Attorney General named in the New Mexico AG's letter as responsible for blocking the Epstein records request; facing imminent Senate confirmation.
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MeidasTouch host pursuing Epstein records through FOIA requests; the DOJ has been fighting her efforts.
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Legislation requiring release of Epstein-related documents; Ben Meiselas says the Trump DOJ is completely undermining it.
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Referenced as the 2019 DOJ official who stepped aside to allow New Mexico to pursue its Epstein investigation — a decision since reversed.
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Federal agency accused of deliberately blocking New Mexico's Epstein investigation and undermining the Epstein Transparency Act.
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Progressive media network hosting the podcast; its hosts Ben Meiselas and Katie Fang are both pursuing Epstein accountability reporting.
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Harry Litman's YouTube channel, which Ben Meiselas promotes at the end of the episode as a resource for legal analysis.
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U.S. state whose attorney general is investigating Epstein's Zoro Ranch and whose cooperation requests have been stonewalled by the federal DOJ.
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Jeffrey Epstein's ranch in New Mexico, south of Santa Fe, alleged to be the site of systematic sexual abuse over nearly three decades.
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Trump's Palm Beach estate, referenced as being roughly a mile from Epstein's Palm Beach property where the two allegedly met.
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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
The DOJ failed to respond to New Mexico's February 2026 request for unredacted Epstein files for 130 days.
New Mexico AG Torres sent six documented requests to the DOJ between February and June 2026 for Epstein records, none of which produced the requested materials.
Reuters reported that New Mexico's top law enforcement official accused the DOJ of hindering their Epstein investigation.
Over 90% of prosecutions in the U.S. occur at the state level, making federal-state cooperation routine.
There is no conceivable legitimate federal interest in preventing New Mexico from prosecuting Epstein crimes that occurred within New Mexico.
In 2019, DOJ official Maureen Comey stepped aside to allow New Mexico to proceed with its Epstein investigation.
The DOJ has fought MeidasTouch host Katie Fang's FOIA requests for Epstein records.
The Trump DOJ is undermining the Epstein Transparency Act.
New Mexico AG Torres's investigation into Epstein's Zoro Ranch has been open for nearly five months with no results announced, due to the DOJ withholding documents.
Todd Blanche's Senate confirmation hearing as Attorney General was scheduled within days of the episode's recording.
The DOJ killed the original investigation into Epstein's activities in New Mexico before the current investigation was opened.
Epstein is accused of sexually assaulting women and girls at his New Mexico ranch for nearly three decades.
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