Arsenal won the Premier League for the first time in 22 years.
Return of the Doc!
Doc Willis reveals he had type 2 diabetes, kidney lesions, a liver finding, and a colonoscopy polyp — all discovered after a doctor literally clicked "obese" in front of a medical student during his check-up.
Bad Friends
Return of the Doc!
Doc Willis reveals he had type 2 diabetes, kidney lesions, a liver finding, and a colonoscopy polyp — all discovered after a doctor literally clicked "obese" in front of a medical student during his check-up.
TL;DR
Bad Friends hosts Bobby Lee and Andrew Santino celebrate Arsenal's first Premier League title in 22 years before diving into a running tribunal against tour manager Carlos Herrera — gripes include Carlos comparing himself to Robin Williams after a 30-second cold open and inviting unverified strangers to Bobby's post-show dinner in Toronto [1] — Andrew Santino "After a full mock-court proceeding, Carlos is found innocent on the Robin Williams charge and guilty on letting a stranger into Bobby's pri…" 19:25 . The episode's emotional centrepiece is the surprise return of Doc Willis, a longtime friend absent from the show for nearly three years, who opens up about his type 2 diabetes diagnosis, dramatic weight loss, and health turnaround through intermittent fasting and cutting sugar [2] — Doc Willis "Doc Willis reversed his early-stage type 2 diabetes markers — dropping his A1C from 6.6 to 5.9 — through intermittent fasting including two…" 35:00 . The single most useful takeaway: combining protein (like cottage cheese or cheese) with high-oxalate foods like spinach binds calcium oxalate and reduces kidney stone risk [3] — Doc Willis "Spinach & kidney stones / oxalates: Doc Willis linked his kidney lesions to an all-spinach diet, as spinach is high in oxalates which can f…" 44:48 .
Bobby Lee and Andrew Santino run a mock tribunal against tour manager Carlos Herrera, then surprise Bobby with the return of longtime friend Doc Willis, who opens up about his health transformation after type 2 diabetes, kidney lesions, and an all-spinach diet gone wrong.
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Andrew Santino's breezy claim that Toronto 'went off without a hitch' immediately draws suspicion — his tone says otherwise. After a little probing from Bobby Lee, Andrew confirms there were two significant gripes (and a minor third he decides to let go). The episode's running legal-comedy conceit kicks into gear: Carlos Herrera is instructed to get a pen and paper, hold his Juul, and stay silent while the prosecution builds its case. The atmosphere is part court-room drama, part therapy session, with Bobby visibly trying to stay calm despite the mounting resentment he admits was already bubbling before the show started.
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Bobby Lee lays out gripe number one with the precision of a prosecutor. Carlos Herrera was asked to do two things on stage before the Toronto show: ask the crowd not to heckle, and to put their phones away. Simple. But Carlos returned from the wings buzzing, looked Bobby in the eye, and said 'I feel like Robin Williams.' Bobby's response is surgical. He offers an analogy: a father invites his 15-year-old son to the construction site for a day, lets the kid hammer in the final nail, and the son declares 'I built a house.' That's the Carlos situation. Bobby then delivers his knockout line: Robin Williams, had he still been alive, never would have felt that particular brand of deluded cockiness — because talent precludes that kind of ego [1] — Bobby Lee "I bet you money, I bet you money that if Robin Williams was still alive, right, that feeling that you had, he never had." 05:22 .
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Andrew Santino steers the tribunal to its conclusion. After polling the jury — including show producer Andreas — the group finds Carlos innocent on the Robin Williams charge (the crowd did laugh, even if Bobby's god-mic contributions did the heavy lifting) but emphatically guilty on allowing a stranger into the private dinner and green room. The sentence is creative: Carlos must perform 12 minutes of stand-up comedy cold — no walkout music, no hype introduction, no god mic from Bobby. A stagehand will say 'Ladies and gentlemen, Carlos Herrera,' and that's it. The show must run on its own merits. The punishment is set for Friday night in Minnesota. Carlos, to his credit, accepts the challenge with competitive bravado, predicting he'll do well precisely because expectations are low.
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Andrew Santino steers the tribunal to its conclusion. After polling the jury — including show producer Andreas — the group finds Carlos innocent on the Robin Williams charge (the crowd did laugh, even if Bobby's god-mic contributions did the heavy lifting) but emphatically guilty on allowing a stranger into the private dinner and green room. The sentence is creative: Carlos must perform 12 minutes of stand-up comedy cold — no walkout music, no hype introduction, no god mic from Bobby. A stagehand will say 'Ladies and gentlemen, Carlos Herrera,' and that's it. The show must run on its own merits. The punishment is set for Friday night in Minnesota. Carlos, to his credit, accepts the challenge with competitive bravado, predicting he'll do well precisely because expectations are low.
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The mood lifts as Andrew Santino shares that he flew show producer McCone to his sister's wedding in the Dominican Republic — a gesture laced with characteristic Santino grumpiness ('I greeted him with disdain'). The key exhibit: a photo of McCone on the beach with braided hair, which Andrew and Bobby agree looked genuinely cool. McCone, however, reportedly complained constantly that the braids hurt and then took them out. Bobby laughs that a new tribunal is needed — this time with him as judge — and the show builds toward its main surprise.
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Doc Willis details his medical odyssey with disarming candour. He went to the doctor initially for a persistent cough, but a blood test revealed early-stage type 2 diabetes. An ultrasound then found lesions on both kidneys and something on his liver — prompting a colonoscopy, which found a polyp. He also has a pending urologist CT scan. The catalyst for all of it was an embarrassing but clarifying doctor's appointment: the physician, mid-exam in front of a beautiful female medical student, moved the cursor on his computer screen and clicked the label 'obese.' Doc's stunned, profane response — 'You just gonna say that right in front of her?' — captures exactly the wake-up call that changed his life. Andrew Santino's observation that they 'fit so many bad things in such a small body' lands perfectly [1] — Doc Willis "Doc Willis went to the doctor for a cough and left with a type 2 diabetes diagnosis, lesions on both kidneys, a liver finding, and a colono…" 30:20 .
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The sponsor break opens with Bobby Lee going unexpectedly personal: he credits TalkSpace with helping him process childhood abuse through EMDR therapy and medication, saying it 'saved my life.' Andrew Santino builds on this with a pitch for TalkSpace's accessibility — sessions from home, the car, or a walk — noting the service is covered by most insurers with many members paying zero copay. The offer: $80 off the first month with code SPACE80 at talkspace.com/badfriends. The Hims segment follows with Bobby confirming he uses minoxidil and finasteride himself, crediting the products with thickening his hair as he grows it out. Andrew notes results can arrive in as little as 3 to 6 months.
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Bobby Lee pivots from health victories to health paranoia, warning Doc Willis that hantavirus and Ebola could mutate and become airborne. Andrew Santino firmly pushes back: hantavirus is geographically contained, there are no active U.S. spread cases, and the threat is overblown. Doc takes the fatalistic view — you'll die of whatever you're gonna die of — and refuses to wear a mask under any circumstances. The conversation escalates into whether COVID was engineered in a lab (Andrew calls it a 'literal fact'), whether governments have historically deployed viruses against specific racial groups (Doc and Bobby both consider this historically plausible), and Doc's theory that catching COVID seven times may have given him superior antibodies. The segment is chaotic, funny, and occasionally conspiratorial.
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A comment about Doc Willis and home security leads to the observation that Anthony Mackie — formerly The Falcon — is now playing Captain America in the MCU. Doc Willis objects on the grounds that the original character was drawn as white, and that casting should honour the source material. Andrew Santino argues the opposite: it's a movie, the colour costs more in the original comics anyway, and the real problem is Hollywood endlessly reviving old IP instead of creating new stories. Bobby Lee adds that he'd be uncomfortable seeing a Korean actor play Wolverine — Canadian white guy, short, stocky. The debate then shifts to Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom: Doc finds it jarring after Iron Man, and the group brainstorm better-suited actors from the right age range (mid-40s to early 50s), with Bobby emphatically nominating Matthew McConaughey as the obvious but overlooked choice.
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Andrew Santino finished the Hulk Hogan Netflix documentary and brings it to the group. He wasn't a wrestling fan but found himself captivated by Hogan's story. Bobby Lee remembers Tonga the Kid — Sam Fatu — as his personal favourite. Doc Willis, a genuine wrestling enthusiast, delivers what feels like the episode's most insightful non-health observation: Hogan's cultural power came from that final-minute comeback, the finger point after being beaten down, because it encapsulated the American myth of resilience. It was Americana in trunks. Andrew notes that Hogan reportedly died around three months after the documentary wrapped [1] — Andrew Santino "Hulk Hogan died 3 months after documentary: Andrew Santino noted that Hulk Hogan died three months after filming wrapped on his Netflix doc…" 1:06:06 , giving the film an unintended elegiac quality. His main complaint: the producers left out the most interesting material — the sex tape, the scandal, the messy human story under the mythology.
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The episode closes on its most vulnerable note. Bobby Lee, with Doc Willis present, articulates his dream: a gradual return to the old dynamic, eventually leading to a world tour where Doc is part of the Bad Friends family again. He admits openly that he feels he 'fucked it up' and offers a sincere apology on camera. Doc accepts graciously, noting that Bobby had already been forgiven privately — texted, seen in person, and talked through it outside the Improv — but that this public moment is for the fans, who need closure too [1] — Bobby Lee "Bobby Lee breaks down expressing his dream of going on a world tour with Doc Willis, admits he felt he personally ruined their friendship, …" 1:06:50 . Doc emphasises this is a one-episode appearance for now; he's still focused on his health. Andrew Santino explains how the reconnection happened: he spotted a Hogan-like figure in the Dominican Republic, texted Doc, and the conversation snowballed. The show ends with Doc's sincere sign-off to the Bad Friends universe: 'Thank you for being a bad friend. Love and miss you.'
- God mic
- A microphone positioned offstage that allows the host or announcer to address the audience without being seen, typically used to build hype before a performer takes the stage.
- Autophagy
- A cellular self-cleaning process in which the body breaks down and recycles damaged or weak cells; Doc Willis referenced it as a key benefit of extended fasting.
- A1C (HbA1c)
- A blood test measuring average blood sugar levels over the past 2–3 months, used to diagnose and monitor diabetes; Doc Willis's A1C dropped from 6.6 to 5.9 after lifestyle changes.
- Oxalate
- A naturally occurring compound found in many foods (especially spinach) that can bind with calcium in the kidneys to form calcium oxalate kidney stones.
- Intermittent fasting
- An eating pattern that cycles between periods of fasting and eating, often used for weight management and metabolic health; Doc Willis used 16:8 windows and two 48-hour water fasts.
- Japanese walking
- An interval walking technique that alternates 3 minutes of brisk walking with 3 minutes of slow recovery for a total of 30 minutes, studied for cardiovascular and metabolic benefits.
- BMI (Body Mass Index)
- A numerical measure of body fat based on height and weight, used by doctors to classify underweight, normal, overweight, and obese categories.
- EMDR
- Eye Movement Desensitisation and Reprocessing — a psychotherapy technique used to treat trauma and PTSD; Bobby Lee mentioned undergoing EMDR through a therapist.
- Fatty liver
- A condition where excess fat accumulates in liver cells, often associated with obesity, diabetes, and high sugar intake; Doc Willis's doctor suspected this as the cause of his liver abnormality.
- Polyp
- An abnormal tissue growth protruding from a mucous membrane, found in Doc Willis's colon during a colonoscopy; polyps can be precancerous if left untreated.
- MCU (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
- The interconnected franchise of superhero films and TV shows produced by Marvel Studios, discussed in the episode in the context of casting Anthony Mackie as Captain America and Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom.
- NWO
- New World Order — a villainous faction in professional wrestling created in the 1990s in WCW, referenced by Andrew Santino during the Hulk Hogan documentary discussion.
- DEI
- Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion — a set of organisational principles promoting representation of underrepresented groups; Doc Willis used the term sarcastically when discussing Anthony Mackie's casting as Captain America.
- Finasteride
- An oral prescription medication used to treat male pattern hair loss by blocking the hormone DHT; mentioned as an ingredient in Hims hair-loss treatments.
- Minoxidil
- A topical or oral medication that stimulates hair regrowth by increasing blood flow to hair follicles; mentioned as a key Hims product ingredient used by Bobby Lee.
- Hegemony / 'freeballing'
- Used colloquially by Bobby Lee ('freeball hantavirus') to mean going completely unprotected or without safeguards against a threat.
- Lawyering up
- Colloquial phrase meaning to prepare a legal defence or stop talking without counsel present; Carlos Herrera jokingly used it before Bobby Lee listed his gripes on the podcast.
Chapter 1 · 00:00
Arsenal Win The Premier League!
Andrew Santino's breezy claim that Toronto 'went off without a hitch' immediately draws suspicion — his tone says otherwise. After a little probing from Bobby Lee, Andrew confirms there were two significant gripes (and a minor third he decides to let go). The episode's running legal-comedy conceit kicks into gear: Carlos Herrera is instructed to get a pen and paper, hold his Juul, and stay silent while the prosecution builds its case. The atmosphere is part court-room drama, part therapy session, with Bobby visibly trying to stay calm despite the mounting resentment he admits was already bubbling before the show started.
Claims made here
Carlos Herrera told Bobby Lee he felt like Robin Williams after delivering a brief cold-open announcement at the Toronto show.
Arsenal won the Premier League for the first time in 22 years, a moment Bobby Lee called the best week of his life.
Carlos Herrera did a 30-second stage announcement at Bobby Lee's Toronto show and came off feeling like Robin Williams. Bobby's response was surgical: Robin Williams never felt that cocky because he was too talented to be that deluded.
Chapter 2 · 04:00
Carlos Goes Full Robin Williams
Bobby Lee lays out gripe number one with the precision of a prosecutor. Carlos Herrera was asked to do two things on stage before the Toronto show: ask the crowd not to heckle, and to put their phones away. Simple. But Carlos returned from the wings buzzing, looked Bobby in the eye, and said 'I feel like Robin Williams.' Bobby's response is surgical. He offers an analogy: a father invites his 15-year-old son to the construction site for a day, lets the kid hammer in the final nail, and the son declares 'I built a house.' That's the Carlos situation. Bobby then delivers his knockout line: Robin Williams, had he still been alive, never would have felt that particular brand of deluded cockiness — because talent precludes that kind of ego [1] — Bobby Lee "I bet you money, I bet you money that if Robin Williams was still alive, right, that feeling that you had, he never had." 05:22 .
Claims made here
The man Carlos introduced as Akash Singh's brother was not actually related to Akash Singh — he was a local fan with a different surname who had only met Akash a couple of times.
Carlos Herrera compared himself to Robin Williams after delivering a 30-second cold-open announcement at Bobby Lee's Toronto show.
Carlos Herrera introduced a man at Bobby Lee's private Toronto post-show dinner as 'Akash Singh's brother' — a claim that turned out to be fabricated. The man had simply DMed the Bad Friends page saying he'd 'look after Bobby' when Akash was in town.
Carlos Herrera let an unverified fan — who claimed to be Akash Singh's brother but wasn't — into Bobby Lee's post-show dinner and green room in Toronto.
Chapter 3 · 09:00
That's NOT Akaash's Brother...
Andrew Santino steers the tribunal to its conclusion. After polling the jury — including show producer Andreas — the group finds Carlos innocent on the Robin Williams charge (the crowd did laugh, even if Bobby's god-mic contributions did the heavy lifting) but emphatically guilty on allowing a stranger into the private dinner and green room. The sentence is creative: Carlos must perform 12 minutes of stand-up comedy cold — no walkout music, no hype introduction, no god mic from Bobby. A stagehand will say 'Ladies and gentlemen, Carlos Herrera,' and that's it. The show must run on its own merits. The punishment is set for Friday night in Minnesota. Carlos, to his credit, accepts the challenge with competitive bravado, predicting he'll do well precisely because expectations are low.
Chapter 4 · 15:00
We Do This Every Week
Andrew Santino steers the tribunal to its conclusion. After polling the jury — including show producer Andreas — the group finds Carlos innocent on the Robin Williams charge (the crowd did laugh, even if Bobby's god-mic contributions did the heavy lifting) but emphatically guilty on allowing a stranger into the private dinner and green room. The sentence is creative: Carlos must perform 12 minutes of stand-up comedy cold — no walkout music, no hype introduction, no god mic from Bobby. A stagehand will say 'Ladies and gentlemen, Carlos Herrera,' and that's it. The show must run on its own merits. The punishment is set for Friday night in Minnesota. Carlos, to his credit, accepts the challenge with competitive bravado, predicting he'll do well precisely because expectations are low.
Claims made here
Acorns has over 14 million all-time customers who have collectively saved and invested over $27 billion.
After a full mock-court proceeding, Carlos is found innocent on the Robin Williams charge and guilty on letting a stranger into Bobby's private dinner. Andrew Santino sets a new punishment: 12 minutes of stand-up cold, no music, no god-mic — just Carlos alone on stage.
Acorns has over 14 million all-time customers who have collectively saved and invested over $27 billion through the platform.
Chapter 5 · 23:30
McKone Gets Braids
The mood lifts as Andrew Santino shares that he flew show producer McCone to his sister's wedding in the Dominican Republic — a gesture laced with characteristic Santino grumpiness ('I greeted him with disdain'). The key exhibit: a photo of McCone on the beach with braided hair, which Andrew and Bobby agree looked genuinely cool. McCone, however, reportedly complained constantly that the braids hurt and then took them out. Bobby laughs that a new tribunal is needed — this time with him as judge — and the show builds toward its main surprise.
Chapter 6 · 27:00
Return of the Doc!
Doc Willis details his medical odyssey with disarming candour. He went to the doctor initially for a persistent cough, but a blood test revealed early-stage type 2 diabetes. An ultrasound then found lesions on both kidneys and something on his liver — prompting a colonoscopy, which found a polyp. He also has a pending urologist CT scan. The catalyst for all of it was an embarrassing but clarifying doctor's appointment: the physician, mid-exam in front of a beautiful female medical student, moved the cursor on his computer screen and clicked the label 'obese.' Doc's stunned, profane response — 'You just gonna say that right in front of her?' — captures exactly the wake-up call that changed his life. Andrew Santino's observation that they 'fit so many bad things in such a small body' lands perfectly [1] — Doc Willis "Doc Willis went to the doctor for a cough and left with a type 2 diabetes diagnosis, lesions on both kidneys, a liver finding, and a colono…" 30:20 .
Claims made here
Doc Willis was over 180 pounds when he was last on the Bad Friends show and developed type 2 diabetes as a result.
Doc Willis was diagnosed with lesions on both kidneys, an abnormality on his liver, a colonoscopy polyp, and early-stage type 2 diabetes, all discovered during a single medical work-up.
Bobby Lee breaks down in tears when Doc Willis walks into the studio unannounced. Doc had been absent from the show for nearly three years, and fans had been stopping him on the street in New York begging him to come back.
Doc Willis had not appeared on Bad Friends for approximately three years before his surprise return in this episode.
Doc Willis revealed he was over 180 pounds and developed type 2 diabetes, kidney lesions, a liver finding, and a colonoscopy polyp as a result of poor diet.
Doc Willis went to the doctor for a cough and left with a type 2 diabetes diagnosis, lesions on both kidneys, a liver finding, and a colonoscopy polyp — all discovered after a doctor literally clicked 'obese' on his screen mid-exam. His wake-up call couldn't have been more vivid.
Doc Willis's doctor publicly noted his obesity mid-exam by clicking the 'obese' label on his computer screen in front of a female medical student, prompting Doc's realisation he needed to change.
Chapter 7 · 35:00
Donuts, Coffee, & Wine
The sponsor break opens with Bobby Lee going unexpectedly personal: he credits TalkSpace with helping him process childhood abuse through EMDR therapy and medication, saying it 'saved my life.' Andrew Santino builds on this with a pitch for TalkSpace's accessibility — sessions from home, the car, or a walk — noting the service is covered by most insurers with many members paying zero copay. The offer: $80 off the first month with code SPACE80 at talkspace.com/badfriends. The Hims segment follows with Bobby confirming he uses minoxidil and finasteride himself, crediting the products with thickening his hair as he grows it out. Andrew notes results can arrive in as little as 3 to 6 months.
Claims made here
During a 48-hour water fast, autophagy kicks in — the body's cells begin consuming damaged and weak cells, starting with stored body fat.
Doc Willis's A1C dropped from 6.6 to 5.9 through intermittent fasting and sugar elimination.
Spinach is high in oxalates, which can crystallise into kidney stones; pairing spinach with a calcium-rich food like cheese or cottage cheese binds the oxalates and reduces kidney stone risk.
Japanese interval walking alternates 3 minutes of brisk walking with 3 minutes of slow recovery for a total of 30 minutes.
Using a phone on nighttime walks exposes you to blue light that can cause insomnia and is harmful to brain function.
Doc Willis reversed his early-stage type 2 diabetes markers — dropping his A1C from 6.6 to 5.9 — through intermittent fasting including two 48-hour water fasts. At 48 hours he describes an almost euphoric, floating sensation from autophagy kicking in.
Doc Willis completed two 48-hour water fasts and described a near-euphoric 'floating' mental state at that point, which he attributed to autophagy.
Through intermittent fasting — including two 48-hour fasts — and cutting sugar, Doc Willis brought his A1C level down from 6.6 to 5.9, reversing early-stage type 2 diabetes markers.
Doc Willis laid out the diet that gave him type 2 diabetes: a Starbucks donut and coffee for breakfast, wine in the afternoon, then Jack in the Box at 5pm. He admits his cousin recognised from phone calls that something was deeply wrong.
Doc Willis's attempt to get healthy with an all-spinach diet may have backfired badly — spinach is high in calcium oxalate, which can form kidney stones. The fix: pair spinach with cheese or cottage cheese to bind the oxalates before they cause damage.
Doc Willis linked his kidney lesions to an all-spinach diet, as spinach is high in oxalates which can form kidney stones; pairing spinach with a calcium-rich protein binds the oxalates.
Japanese interval walking — alternating 3 minutes of brisk pace with 3 minutes of slow recovery for 30 minutes — was a key part of Doc Willis's health turnaround. The crew also warn against using your phone on nighttime walks due to blue light disrupting sleep.
Japanese interval walking alternates 3 minutes of brisk walking with 3 minutes of slow recovery for a total of 30 minutes, and was part of Doc Willis's health routine.
Chapter 8 · 48:00
Hantavirus & Ebola
Bobby Lee pivots from health victories to health paranoia, warning Doc Willis that hantavirus and Ebola could mutate and become airborne. Andrew Santino firmly pushes back: hantavirus is geographically contained, there are no active U.S. spread cases, and the threat is overblown. Doc takes the fatalistic view — you'll die of whatever you're gonna die of — and refuses to wear a mask under any circumstances. The conversation escalates into whether COVID was engineered in a lab (Andrew calls it a 'literal fact'), whether governments have historically deployed viruses against specific racial groups (Doc and Bobby both consider this historically plausible), and Doc's theory that catching COVID seven times may have given him superior antibodies. The segment is chaotic, funny, and occasionally conspiratorial.
Claims made here
Doc Willis contracted COVID-19 seven times.
Andrew Santino claimed COVID-19 came from a laboratory and called it a 'literal fact' rather than a theory.
Doc Willis revealed he contracted COVID-19 seven times, attributing it partly to a poor diet of Starbucks pastries, Jack in the Box, and wine on an empty stomach.
Bobby Lee warns Doc Willis about hantavirus and Ebola becoming airborne, suggesting viruses mutate due to deforestation. Andrew Santino dismisses hantavirus fears as overblown. The crew then debate whether COVID was engineered and whether governments have historically targeted specific populations with diseases.
Chapter 9 · 54:00
Recasting Captain America
A comment about Doc Willis and home security leads to the observation that Anthony Mackie — formerly The Falcon — is now playing Captain America in the MCU. Doc Willis objects on the grounds that the original character was drawn as white, and that casting should honour the source material. Andrew Santino argues the opposite: it's a movie, the colour costs more in the original comics anyway, and the real problem is Hollywood endlessly reviving old IP instead of creating new stories. Bobby Lee adds that he'd be uncomfortable seeing a Korean actor play Wolverine — Canadian white guy, short, stocky. The debate then shifts to Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom: Doc finds it jarring after Iron Man, and the group brainstorm better-suited actors from the right age range (mid-40s to early 50s), with Bobby emphatically nominating Matthew McConaughey as the obvious but overlooked choice.
Claims made here
Anthony Mackie now plays Captain America in the MCU, having transitioned from the role of The Falcon.
Doc Willis objects to Anthony Mackie playing Captain America on comic-fidelity grounds, while Andrew Santino argues none of it matters because it's just business. Both agree Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom is questionable — and Matthew McConaughey would have been perfect.
The group debated the MCU casting of Anthony Mackie as Captain America, with Doc Willis questioning the change from the original white character while Andrew Santino argued it doesn't matter.
Robert Downey Jr. has been cast as Doctor Doom in the MCU after previously playing Iron Man, a choice that surprised and frustrated Doc Willis who felt there were other available actors.
Chapter 10 · 1:01:00
Hulk Hogan & The Tonga Kind
Andrew Santino finished the Hulk Hogan Netflix documentary and brings it to the group. He wasn't a wrestling fan but found himself captivated by Hogan's story. Bobby Lee remembers Tonga the Kid — Sam Fatu — as his personal favourite. Doc Willis, a genuine wrestling enthusiast, delivers what feels like the episode's most insightful non-health observation: Hogan's cultural power came from that final-minute comeback, the finger point after being beaten down, because it encapsulated the American myth of resilience. It was Americana in trunks. Andrew notes that Hogan reportedly died around three months after the documentary wrapped [1] — Andrew Santino "Hulk Hogan died 3 months after documentary: Andrew Santino noted that Hulk Hogan died three months after filming wrapped on his Netflix doc…" 1:06:06 , giving the film an unintended elegiac quality. His main complaint: the producers left out the most interesting material — the sex tape, the scandal, the messy human story under the mythology.
Andrew Santino finished the Hulk Hogan Netflix documentary and found it fascinating despite not being a wrestling fan. Doc Willis nails why Hogan transcended wrestling: that last-minute comeback finger-point was pure Americana. Andrew's main complaint? They never played the sex tape.
Chapter 11 · 1:06:00
The Dream
The episode closes on its most vulnerable note. Bobby Lee, with Doc Willis present, articulates his dream: a gradual return to the old dynamic, eventually leading to a world tour where Doc is part of the Bad Friends family again. He admits openly that he feels he 'fucked it up' and offers a sincere apology on camera. Doc accepts graciously, noting that Bobby had already been forgiven privately — texted, seen in person, and talked through it outside the Improv — but that this public moment is for the fans, who need closure too [1] — Bobby Lee "Bobby Lee breaks down expressing his dream of going on a world tour with Doc Willis, admits he felt he personally ruined their friendship, …" 1:06:50 . Doc emphasises this is a one-episode appearance for now; he's still focused on his health. Andrew Santino explains how the reconnection happened: he spotted a Hogan-like figure in the Dominican Republic, texted Doc, and the conversation snowballed. The show ends with Doc's sincere sign-off to the Bad Friends universe: 'Thank you for being a bad friend. Love and miss you.'
Claims made here
Hulk Hogan died approximately three months after the Netflix documentary about his life was completed.
Andrew Santino noted that Hulk Hogan died three months after filming wrapped on his Netflix documentary, lending the tribute an inadvertently poignant quality.
For nearly three years since leaving Bad Friends, Doc Willis was stopped by fans on the streets of New York, in grocery stores, and everywhere he went, all begging him to return. The camaraderie of the show, he says, goes beyond podcasting.
Bobby Lee breaks down expressing his dream of going on a world tour with Doc Willis, admits he felt he personally ruined their friendship, and offers a sincere on-air apology. It's the rawest the show has ever heard Bobby Lee.
No indexed bits in this chapter.
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Cast
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Bobby Lee's tour manager, put on trial in a mock court for comparing himself to Robin Williams and letting strangers into Bobby's post-show dinner and green room.
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Used as the benchmark of comedy greatness that Carlos Herrera falsely believed he had reached after a 30-second stage announcement.
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Comedian whose supposed 'brother' Carlos Herrera admitted to Bobby Lee's post-show dinner — a man who turned out to be an unrelated fan from Toronto.
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Subject of a Netflix documentary reviewed by Andrew Santino; discussed as a cultural icon whose comeback narrative embodied Americana.
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Formerly Iron Man in the MCU, now cast as Doctor Doom — a choice that surprised and frustrated Doc Willis.
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Actor who took over the role of Captain America (formerly The Falcon) in the MCU, debated by the hosts on comic-fidelity grounds.
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The English Premier League, which Arsenal won for the first time in 22 years, discussed at the episode's opening.
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Arsenal's Premier League title win after 22 years was celebrated by Bobby Lee as one of the highlights of his week.
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Fast food chain Doc Willis repeatedly visited as part of the unhealthy diet that contributed to his type 2 diabetes diagnosis.
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Entertainment franchise whose MCU casting decisions for Captain America and Doctor Doom were debated by the hosts.
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Investing app and episode sponsor, described as an all-in-one savings and investment platform for beginners.
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Men's health platform and episode sponsor, used by Bobby Lee for minoxidil and finasteride hair loss treatment.
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Online therapy platform and episode sponsor; Bobby Lee credited it with life-changing mental health support including EMDR therapy.
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Eyewear brand and episode sponsor offering prescription glasses, contacts, and sunglasses with digital try-on technology.
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Streaming platform that produced the Hulk Hogan documentary reviewed by Andrew Santino.
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Coffee chain whose donuts and pastries formed the breakfast staple of Doc Willis's unhealthy year, contributing to his sugar overload.
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Canadian city where Andrew Santino and Bobby Lee performed shows, scene of the Carlos Herrera gripes.
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Location of Andrew Santino's sister's wedding, where he spotted a man resembling Doc Willis and restarted contact with him.
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Claims & Sources
Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
Arsenal won the Premier League for the first time in 22 years.
Carlos Herrera told Bobby Lee he felt like Robin Williams after delivering a brief cold-open announcement at the Toronto show.
The man Carlos introduced as Akash Singh's brother was not actually related to Akash Singh — he was a local fan with a different surname who had only met Akash a couple of times.
Acorns has over 14 million all-time customers who have collectively saved and invested over $27 billion.
Doc Willis was over 180 pounds when he was last on the Bad Friends show and developed type 2 diabetes as a result.
Doc Willis was diagnosed with lesions on both kidneys, an abnormality on his liver, a colonoscopy polyp, and early-stage type 2 diabetes, all discovered during a single medical work-up.
Doc Willis's A1C dropped from 6.6 to 5.9 through intermittent fasting and sugar elimination.
During a 48-hour water fast, autophagy kicks in — the body's cells begin consuming damaged and weak cells, starting with stored body fat.
Spinach is high in oxalates, which can crystallise into kidney stones; pairing spinach with a calcium-rich food like cheese or cottage cheese binds the oxalates and reduces kidney stone risk.
Japanese interval walking alternates 3 minutes of brisk walking with 3 minutes of slow recovery for a total of 30 minutes.
Using a phone on nighttime walks exposes you to blue light that can cause insomnia and is harmful to brain function.
Doc Willis contracted COVID-19 seven times.
Andrew Santino claimed COVID-19 came from a laboratory and called it a 'literal fact' rather than a theory.
Hulk Hogan died approximately three months after the Netflix documentary about his life was completed.
Anthony Mackie now plays Captain America in the MCU, having transitioned from the role of The Falcon.
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