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Ex-Military Hacker: The Secret World Of Government Surveillance - Bill Thompson - #1131

Explore episode Aug 1, 2026

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The Biggest Exploitation Hack

At 17:10 · chapter starts 17:05

When Chris asks for the gnarliest publicly known hacking exploits, Bill doesn't hesitate: Pegasus is the king. In its earliest form, it required clicking a phishing link — but what made it extraordinary was where it lived on the phone once installed. It was stored in a location so counterintuitive that even a trained military forensic operator doing a full phone dump during a triage would have missed it. Bill wanted to run his own analysis on it but had left the military by the time it became prominent. He pivoted to another Israeli operation that drew equal admiration: the 2024 Hezbollah pager bombing. Years of target development, corporate espionage, supply chain interdiction, patience while waiting for the devices to be distributed — and then simultaneous detonation. 'I wish I'd have been part of something like that,' he says, before immediately recommending someone make a movie about it.

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