Podbit · All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Chemo is carpet bombing. Immunotherapy is recruiting local allies. Radiopharmaceuticals are micro drones: 2-centimeter precision, single-cell blast radius, autonomous targeting. Aktis Oncology has built the platform to deliver any radioactive payload to any target — and the data readout is less than a year away.
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Oleg Nodelman uses a military analogy to explain the history of cancer treatment before pitching Aktis Oncology — a radiopharmaceutical biotech with clinical data due in 2027 and Eli Lilly as a strategic backer.
EcoR1 Capital has returned 10x to investors since its 2013 inception, compounding at 20% annually, growing from $13M to $2.5B AUM.
Talen Energy owns 2 gigawatts of nuclear power and 6 gigawatts of natural gas baseload power.
Talen Energy trades at a $25B enterprise value versus a $45B replacement cost. At 7x free cash flow on a $50/share FCF base, with comparable infrastructure at 15x, the equity should more than double just doing nothing. If power prices rise and data center deals accelerate, you get $1,050.
Talen Energy can be purchased at a $25B enterprise value while its replacement cost is $45B, implying the equity alone should more than double just to reach replacement cost.
The US started the current cycle with 2x China's power capacity; today China has 3x the US's generation capacity.
Anxiety is not fear. Fear has an object — a wolf, a threat. Anxiety is the vertigo of standing at the edge of infinite possibility and knowing that choosing any one thing closes off all the others. Kierkegaard argued that the depth of your anxiety is proportional to the depth of your potential.
AI nailed Andrew Huberman's vertigo-vs-low-blood-pressure diagnosis because that pattern has been reported millions of times. But every patient's liver is different and data on liver surgeries is scarce worldwide — making solo robot surgery dangerous. The rule is simple: data abundance means AI can help; data scarcity means keep the human in the loop.
Fei-Fei Li's father had liver surgery performed by a da Vinci robot guided by a surgeon. The result: 10 times less blood loss than a typical procedure. This isn't replacement — it's the gold standard of human-machine collaboration, where the human's judgment and the robot's precision combine.
US drug overdose deaths fell from 110,000 to roughly 70,000 — the biggest CDC-recorded single-year drop ever. Men's rates fell 27% in one year, and the steepest decline of all was among 15–24-year-olds, down 37%. The crisis narrative around young men needs to make room for signs of genuine progress.
Kessler thought his grief expertise would protect him. It didn't. When his son David died unexpectedly, he found himself on the floor — and eventually realized that acceptance alone wasn't enough. That unmet need became the sixth stage: finding meaning.
Grief isn't just death — it's any unwanted change. Kessler lectured at Coca-Cola and General Mills not because they had lots of funerals, but because change management is grief management. People who grieve well live well.
Witnessing someone's grief isn't just emotional support — it's an essential act of healing. Kessler argues grief is a severance and connection heals it. But real witnessing has two steps: seeing the pain AND affirming the person's capacity to recover.
Avoiding grief isn't free — it's exhausting. Kessler's beach ball metaphor nails it: pushing a small balloon down is easy, but holding a massive beach ball underwater takes constant, draining energy. Unattended feelings don't disappear; they just consume you.
Most people try to control their environment to avoid triggers. Kessler flips this entirely: triggers aren't problems to manage around — they're a detailed map to your pain and your healing. Every trigger points directly to what needs attention.
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