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Dan Dreyfus
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Talen Energy can be purchased at a $25B enterprise value while its replacement cost is $45B, implying the equity alone should more than double just to reach replacement cost.
The US started the current cycle with 2x China's power capacity; today China has 3x the US's generation capacity.
The PJM grid operator forecasts a need for 106 gigawatts of new power in the Pennsylvania-Jersey-Maryland region alone over the next decade.
Talen Energy is projected to generate $50 per share of free cash flow annually even with zero new deals, on a stock in the high $300s — roughly 7x FCF.
If Talen signs more data center contracts and power prices rise, Dan Dreyfus projects $70/share FCF at a 15x multiple, implying a $1,050 stock price.
Microsoft agreed to pay Constellation Energy $100 per megawatt-hour for 20 years to restart the Three Mile Island nuclear reactor, vs. a market price of $50/MWh.
Talen Energy owns 2 gigawatts of nuclear power and 6 gigawatts of natural gas baseload power.
Barry Diller's $48/share bid provides a floor, but MGM's real upside is a $2B EBITDA Osaka casino opening in 2030 and 300,000 sq ft of dark casino space in Dubai. Aaron Cowen says the stock could hit $100-$150 from the current high $40s.
Vegas assets (~$60/share) + Japan ($50/share) + Dubai optionality ($40-50/share) = $100-$150 stock from the high $40s. And Barry Diller, who is a financial buyer not a strategic one, has now shown his cards. Don't tender.
Power demand tracks GDP until a technological breakthrough hits — like appliances, then computers, now AI. The US had 2x China's power capacity two decades ago; China now has 3x ours. Talen Energy sits at the epicenter of a mandatory infrastructure buildout with no room for failure.
Talen Energy trades at a $25B enterprise value versus a $45B replacement cost. At 7x free cash flow on a $50/share FCF base, with comparable infrastructure at 15x, the equity should more than double just doing nothing. If power prices rise and data center deals accelerate, you get $1,050.
The PJM grid operator needs 106 gigawatts of new power in just one region of the US within 10 years — roughly the size of Japan's entire grid today. Supply chain constraints make this virtually impossible, locking in scarcity for existing producers like Talen.
With power at $50/MWh on the open market, Microsoft agreed to pay Constellation Energy $100/MWh for 20 years to restart the Three Mile Island nuclear reactor. The hyperscalers' desperation is now creating permanent structural demand at premium prices.
Chemo is carpet bombing. Immunotherapy is recruiting local allies. Radiopharmaceuticals are micro drones: 2-centimeter precision, single-cell blast radius, autonomous targeting. Aktis Oncology has built the platform to deliver any radioactive payload to any target — and the data readout is less than a year away.
Aktis Oncology has a $500M enterprise value, cash to last 3+ years, and initial clinical data coming in Q1 2027. If one program hits, the company could be worth $10 billion — or get acquired by Lilly, which backstopped its IPO with $100M. The moat: China can't replicate actinium-based radiopharmaceuticals.
GEODNET has 22,000 base stations in 150 countries covering 80% of the global population — built in 4 years using a crypto incentive model where anyone can earn GEO tokens by hosting a node. It powers John Deere, DJI, TomTom, and robotic lawn mowers, and trades at $150M fully diluted on $11M ARR growing 3x YoY.
GEODNET buys $8.8M worth of GEO tokens on the open market every year — 80% of all revenue — from customers like John Deere and DJI. At a $150M fully diluted market cap growing 3x annually, it's an astonishingly cheap asset that barely anyone in traditional finance is watching.
The audience of 150 investors gave 50% of votes to Talen Energy's Dan Dreyfus. But the bestie vote flipped the result: MGM's Aaron Cowen won on downside protection (Barry's bid) plus Japan and Dubai upside. GeoNet placed last on liquidity concerns; Aktis and GeoNet are lottery tickets, MGM and Talen are sizeable bets.
Chamath modeled the All-In Best Ideas event on the Sohn Foundation conference. He called Amazon a trillion-dollar company in 2015 and was laughed out of the room by David Einhorn. In 2017, instead of picking NVIDIA, he picked Box — the one regret that still haunts him.
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