All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Podbit · All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Saronic Founders: Autonomous Warships, China's 230X Advantage & Swarms of Robot Ships

Explore episode Aug 5, 2026

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Saronic founders join the show!

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The interview opens on the story that brought Saronic into the national spotlight: two American pilots downed in the Strait of Hormuz, a contested waterway in an active conflict with Iran. With lives on the line, the US Navy made an unprecedented choice — deploying Saronic's Corsair, a 24-foot fully autonomous speedboat, to retrieve them. Dino Mavroukas, who spent 11 years in the SEAL teams including five on SEAL Team Six, describes the gravity of the moment: the Navy trusted an autonomous system at the highest stakes possible. He draws a direct parallel to 2005, when four SEALs were stranded on a mountainside in Afghanistan and the helicopter sent to rescue them was shot down. The Corsair mission proved that you can execute a rescue without creating a second casualty event. For the pilots in the water, the realization that the boat pulling up had no one on board was immediate — and it was still their way home.

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