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#489 – Paul Rosolie: Uncontacted Tribes in the Amazon Jungle

Explore episode Jan 13, 2026
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Jane Goodall's 48-Hour Reply That Changed Everything

#489 – Paul Rosolie: Uncontacted Tribes in the Amazon Jungle · Jan 13, 2026 Education

Rosolie handed Jane Goodall two manuscript chapters at the end of a long line of fans, asking for an endorsement on a book that didn't exist yet. Forty-eight hours later she agreed. HarperCollins, which had already rejected him, reversed course. That one act of generosity by Goodall is directly traceable to the creation of Jungle Keepers and the protection of 130,000 acres of rainforest.

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Jane Goodall

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Lex reads aloud Rosolie's book passage rejecting the anti-human narrative and affirming that conservation heroes are 'guarding the flame amidst the storm,' then quotes Jane Goodall: 'The greatest danger to our future is apathy.' The conversation shifts into a moving tribute to Goodall, who died on October 1st. Rosolie recounts growing up dyslexic, having his parents read him Jane Goodall at bedtime, and eventually attending her NYU lecture. At the end of a long line of fans, a young Rosolie handed her a manila envelope with two chapters from a book that didn't exist yet. Forty-eight hours later she responded: 'This is incredible. I'll endorse your book as soon as you find a publisher.' HarperCollins, which had already rejected him, reversed course. Everything that followed — Mother of God, Jungle Keepers, 130,000 protected acres — traces directly back to that one moment. Rosolie vows to carry that same attentiveness forward with the young people who now approach him.

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