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Ashley Durellis livestreamed the aftermath of Antonio Mays Jr.'s shooting, including the apparent shooter collecting shell casings. A week later she was arrested for rendering criminal assistance. She says she was documenting, not helping. When police interrogated her, they asked more about protesters than the shooter.
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In the quieter minutes after the two teenagers are rushed away for medical care, Ashley Durellis keeps her camera rolling. It catches a figure — chest-down only, work boots, cargo pants, a leather jacket, carrying a plastic bag — walking the scene. Audibly, this person says he needs to pick up his shell casings and take them home. Ashley seems to thank him. David Gutmann's read on the exchange is blunt: in his mind, Ashley was thanking the man for shooting the two boys she believed were a threat to the protesters. Durellis had purposely avoided filming faces throughout her coverage, a deliberate practice among CHOP livestreamers to protect protesters' identities. The upshot: a likely shooter apparently destroying forensic evidence was captured on a public livestream, and six years later he has never been identified or charged.
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