Podbit · Up First from NPR
CHOP had its own armed security patrolling the zone. Their authority rested on nothing but the fact they had guns. Antonio Mays Sr. put it plainly: it's common knowledge that it's not legal to allow vigilantes to police their own zone. Understanding how that security apparatus formed is key to understanding who killed his son.
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When reporters press Ashley Durellis further — does she know who the man was beyond just 'a big white guy'? — she invokes Fight Club: what happened at CHOP stays at CHOP. David Gutmann confirms this mirrors what reporters encountered throughout a year of investigation: he believes people out there know who shot Antonio Mays Jr. and are simply not talking. Ashley reinforces this, noting that everybody at CHOP was armed and calling the idea of formal 'security' a fiction — if having a gun made you security, then everyone was security. Will James picks up the narrative thread reporters need to unravel: who was CHOP security? Why did some protesters arm themselves? And how did a movement built around protesting Black death end up with a Black teenager's killing at its center? The next episode, he teases, will go back to the beginning.
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