Podbit · On Purpose with Jay Shetty
After finishing fourth at the 2012 London Olympics and feeling like he'd let everyone down, Miles ran into Kobe Bryant in the Olympic Village. Kobe told him: 'The best athletes have the shortest memory.' Miles got the quote tattooed on his leg with Kobe's face — and went on to win the World Championship the very next year.
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Jay presses Miles on the role of mentors in elite sport, and Miles delivers a layered answer. Ellen Grayson was the first to look at him and see an Olympian, a declaration he initially found offensive. Eric Rosenberg pushed him toward US citizenship — a decision that would define who he is to this day. But the most formative relationship was with coach Simon Gershon, who became like a father figure Miles can tell anything. Gershon's central teaching — that you must learn to lose before you can win — became so important that Miles had it tattooed on his body. The two men speak daily. Miles draws a direct line from this relationship to his own desire to be a mentor for younger fencers now, through the World Fencing League. The lesson, he says, is bigger than sport: it applies to every area of life. [1] — Miles Chamley-Watson "You must learn how to lose before you can learn how to win." 10:01
Miles got his first tattoo at the 2012 London Olympics; it reads 'From London to London' and started his now-extensive collection of purposeful tattoos.
In 2013, Miles Chamley-Watson became the first ever Black American world champion in the history of fencing.
After meeting Kobe Bryant at the 2012 Olympics, Miles had Kobe's advice — 'the best athletes have the shortest memory' — tattooed on the back of his leg with Kobe's face.
Thomas's wife deferred her CrossFit career — she's in the global top 1% of athletes — to put him through law school debt-free. He wants her to chase the dream now; she wants the emergency fund and house down payment first. On a $200K lawyer income with no debt, the opportunity cost is just a few months of slower saving.
Underground calisthenics battles are exactly like UFC meets a rap battle — 150 people crowded around a circle, fighters walking out with masks and chains, nicknames like 'Extra Money' vs 'Calisthenics the Prince,' and people throwing money and betting. The battle set: 100 burpees, 50 muscle-ups, 75 dips, 75 squats with a 65-pound dumbbell. This is the next big spectator sport.
Rico Verhoeven controlled the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion for approximately 10 rounds — and had his appeal upheld when officials admitted the fight was stopped after the bell. The result was never overturned. Rogan calls it either incompetence or corruption, and argues the money behind Usyk made an upset politically inconvenient.
Rogan lays out a blunt case: boxing's 3-judge system is structurally broken, and the judges know who the promoter wants to win. Glory's 5-judge format is the right model. Corruption doesn't have to be conscious — just knowing Usyk is the cash cow is enough to tilt the scales.
With the Usyk-Wilder fight stalling and Fury-Joshua coming too late, the real fight the world wants is the rematch. Rico is a free agent. Usyk vacated his belts. The story is unfinished and both Rogan and Rico know it. His Excellency Turki Alasheikh already called for it ringside — the question is money.
Rico texted Jason Statham during the Canelo-Crawford fight. Statham showed Rico's highlight videos to promoters. Two days later, Rico was on a call about fighting Anthony Joshua. When Joshua pulled out, Rico pitched Usyk himself — Undisputed vs. Undisputed. Usyk said yes in two weeks. The whole thing started with one text.
Every heavyweight who faced Usyk tried to move to the right — straight into his power hand. Rico and Peter Fury identified the obvious solution: move left, away from the left hand, and smother him with size. It sounds simple. Nobody had done it. That one adjustment was the foundation of 10 dominant rounds.
MMA fans boo when fights go to the ground. They love stand-up. Kickboxing is pure stand-up. Yet it barely exists in America while boxing and MMA are enormous. Rogan's diagnosis: no promotion machine. If the UFC got behind kickboxing the way they've built MMA, it would explode. The talent is there — the storytelling machine is not.
A nation of 17 million people gave the world Ramon Deckers, Peter Aerts, Badr Hari, Melvin Manhoef, Rob Kamen, Ernesto Hoost, and Rico Verhoeven. Rico's theory: the country is so small that every gym shares knowledge freely. In the US, you need a flight. In Holland, you drive 40 minutes and spar the national champion.
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