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#483 – Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

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Why Your Path Into Criminal Psychology Began With Paranoid Schizophrenia

#483 – Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Ki… · Oct 14, 2025 Society & Culture

Julia Shaw almost became a painter. What redirected her was growing up with a father who had paranoid schizophrenia — someone who literally saw and heard a different reality. That destabilizing experience became the engine of her entire career: an obsession with what is real, across crime, memory, and human perception.

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Criminal psychology

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Shaw is frequently asked to include a person's kinks as evidence of criminal character, and she consistently refuses — kinks are not predictive of criminal behavior unless directly involved in the crime itself. Research shows BDSM (including choking, restraint, and role-play) is among the most commonly practiced or fantasized sexual activities, and Shaw's message is simple: destigmatize first, ask safe-word questions second. The disinhibition hypothesis is the episode's most intellectually satisfying insight here: the reason submissives enjoy submission is often that it eliminates decision-making after a day of relentless choices. The dominant role, Lex adds, offers clarity — the freedom of not having to walk on eggshells. Both experiences are forms of being genuinely free precisely because of the fictional or consensual frame. Shaw extends this to furries, blood play, and other 'extreme' kinks: the psychological mechanism is the same — using a consensual frame to release social pressure. Shame about these desires, she argues, causes the real harm.

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