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Inside a Debate at OpenAI Over Mass Shootings

Explore episode Jun 26, 2026

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From Suicidal Ideation to Shooting Planning — Overnight

At 2:13 · chapter starts 1:40

Georgia Wells walks through the chilling pivot: Eichner returns the next morning around 9 AM and begins asking ChatGPT hypothetical questions about how many victims it would take to make national news. The chatbot responds helpfully, even inviting further questions. Eichner then uploads photos of shotgun shells and a Glock handgun, asking whether they're lethal and whether the Glock has a safety. Wells notes that Eichner clearly knew very little about guns — ChatGPT was essentially teaching him in real time. The chatbot asked multiple times what the guns were for, accepting answers like 'home defense' without escalating concern. Eichner's final question was how to turn off the shotgun safety. ChatGPT's reply: 'Push safety from right to left. Ready to fire.' Those were his last words to the chatbot before he opened fire on campus four minutes later, killing two people and wounding at least six others.

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