Fewer than 60% of students at four-year institutions actually graduate. Beilock says this is a fact most university presidents won't admit — and that universities bear real responsibility for it.
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The episode opens with sponsor reads for Hotels.com, Amica, and Mint Mobile before the host frames this week's guest as the second in a series on university leadership. Stephen Dubner draws a direct parallel between Dartmouth president Sian Beilock and Vanderbilt chancellor Daniel Diermeier — both trained at the University of Chicago and both committed to institutional neutrality — but highlights the key difference: Diermeier is a political scientist, while Beilock is a psychologist whose career was built on understanding why people choke under pressure. The host immediately deploys a key data point: 7 in 10 Americans believe higher education is going in the wrong direction [1] — Sian Beilock "7 out of 10 Americans think higher ed is going wrong: Beilock cites data showing that 7 in 10 Americans currently believe higher education …" 03:19 , setting up Beilock's willingness to own that distrust as the episode's central tension.
Beilock cites data showing that 7 in 10 Americans currently believe higher education is heading in the wrong direction, a reversal of trends from previous decades.
Among four-year institutions, fewer than 60% of students graduate — a statistic Beilock says most university presidents won't discuss publicly.
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