The Megyn Kelly Show

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Taylor Swift's "Big Fat Disney Wedding," Prince Harry's UK Plot, and Nancy Guthrie Ransom Note Debate, with Maureen Callahan | Ep. 1352

Explore episode Jul 2, 2026

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Pamela Anderson, Roger Ailes, and Hollywood's Whisper Network

At 43:20 · chapter starts 29:30

Megyn Kelly pivots from Pamela Anderson's principled refusals of Hollywood predators to her own experience with Roger Ailes, recounting how she originally interpreted his behavior as attempted infidelity rather than sexual harassment, and how she and Janice Dean only compared notes years later to discover the true scope of his conduct. Kelly recalls spending three-hour sessions in Ailes's office as a confidant, with his top executives Suzanne Scott and Bill Shine hovering outside wanting intelligence. She shares Ailes's haunting statement that he was 'the loneliest man in the world', believing he had no real friends — and Callahan responds that anyone who needs to silo their life that completely is 'up to something bad.' The conversation then flows naturally into Kelly's own reflections on friendship betrayal, including a painful falling-out with Ben Shapiro, and a playful digression about her dogs Thunder and Strudwick.

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