The Megyn Kelly Show

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Taylor Swift's "Big Fat Disney Wedding," Prince Harry's UK Plot, and Nancy Guthrie Ransom Note Debate, with Maureen Callahan | Ep. 1352

Explore episode Jul 2, 2026

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Aging Performers: Barry Manilow, Smokey Robinson, and the Madonna Spiral

At 56:40 · chapter starts 50:50

Kelly introduces Barry Manilow at 83 and Smokey Robinson at 86 as cautionary tales of legends who cannot step away from the stage. Both are visibly mouthing lyrics to pre-recorded tracks, with Robinson adding an unsettling slow gyration. Kelly invokes the Tina Turner standard — sexy and physically striking into her later years but never simulating sex acts on stage. Madonna, at 68, then provides the episode's most disturbing exhibit: twerking on all fours, appearing to smoke on stage, in behavior that Callahan says looks like active drug addiction. Kelly reflects on how differently she imagined Madonna aging, recalling her disciplined 'straight edge' phase during the Guy Ritchie marriage. Both agree Madonna could have been 'a really cool, iconic elder stateswoman of rock' and is instead squandering her legacy.

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