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Bill Maris: How Google Could Crush AI Competitors, Why Small Funds Win, and AI's Atari Stage

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AI Is at Its Atari Stage

Bill Maris: How Google Could Crush AI Competitors, Why Smal… · Jun 9, 2026 Technology

Today's AI is at the Atari command-line stage: brittle, turn-based, lacking memory and consistency — just like Zork in the 1980s. The leap to a PlayStation 10-level AI will come in 5 years, driven not by bigger models but by the same kind of infrastructure that transformed gaming: physics engines, controllers, and GPUs.

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OpenAI's valuation problem and the AI price war

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When Maris left Google in 2017 to start his own fund, the conventional wisdom was unanimous: raise as much as possible. The management fees alone would be worth it. He ignored that advice entirely. Section32's six funds have averaged approximately $400M in size, and every single one has landed in the top decile. The underlying math explains why: funds under $750M average 4.76x DPI, funds over $1B average 2.42x, and sub-$750M funds represent 95% of all top-decile performers. The logic is simple and brutal — a $7B fund targeting 3x returns needs $210B in exits, which exceeds total venture-backed M&A and IPO value in most years. Size is the enemy of returns, not the friend.

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