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Heather Cox Richardson on Trump’s 250th Celebrations

Explore episode Jun 21, 2026

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Teddy Roosevelt's Boxing vs. Trump's UFC: A Study in Contrasts

At 11:00 · chapter starts 6:58

Wagner raises the MAGA talking point that Teddy Roosevelt also fought at the White House, inviting Richardson to either validate or demolish the parallel. Richardson does both with relish: she first gives full context to TR's boxing — rooted in his anxiety about urban decay, masculine decline, and the rise of an underclass in the industrial era — before identifying two critical differences from Trump's UFC event. No taxpayer money financed Roosevelt's fights, and they were decidedly not a branding or corruption opportunity tied to pay-per-view deals and cryptocurrency sponsors. She then pivots to Lincoln — who came up through an even rougher frontier fighting tradition, including possible ear-biting — whose reputation as a brawler earned him the bipartisan backing that launched his political career.

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