Podbit · Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
At around age 9, Susie first encountered Lewis Hamilton at her first British karting race — described as 'the little boy with the yellow helmet who was outstanding.' They would race in the same class by age 14. Later, on a podium, a more experienced Hamilton grabbed the champagne bottle she couldn't open and handed it back to her.
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At 13, Susie attended a Formula 3 race at Donington and saw Jenson Button — then a young hotshot who would become a world champion — racing. That was the moment the penny dropped: she could do this professionally. Back in the karting world, she progressed from Scottish to British level, where she first encountered Lewis Hamilton at around age 9 — 'the little boy with the yellow helmet who was outstanding.' They raced in the same class by age 14, and she describes a later podium moment where she couldn't open the champagne and Hamilton, far more accustomed to winning, grabbed the bottle and opened it for her. At the World Championships, finishing 15th out of over 130 was solid work. Then the tannoy called her name. She was brought on stage for 'top female in the world.' She hadn't even noticed there were other girls. Her whole team made jokes. It was the moment she understood: they see me as different.
Finishing 15th at the World Karting Championship was solid — there were over 130 competitors. Then the tannoy called her name. She was brought on stage to receive an award for 'top female in the world.' She hadn't even noticed there were other girls in the race. The team's jokes afterwards crystallised something: they now saw her as different.
Thomas's wife deferred her CrossFit career — she's in the global top 1% of athletes — to put him through law school debt-free. He wants her to chase the dream now; she wants the emergency fund and house down payment first. On a $200K lawyer income with no debt, the opportunity cost is just a few months of slower saving.
Underground calisthenics battles are exactly like UFC meets a rap battle — 150 people crowded around a circle, fighters walking out with masks and chains, nicknames like 'Extra Money' vs 'Calisthenics the Prince,' and people throwing money and betting. The battle set: 100 burpees, 50 muscle-ups, 75 dips, 75 squats with a 65-pound dumbbell. This is the next big spectator sport.
Rico Verhoeven controlled the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion for approximately 10 rounds — and had his appeal upheld when officials admitted the fight was stopped after the bell. The result was never overturned. Rogan calls it either incompetence or corruption, and argues the money behind Usyk made an upset politically inconvenient.
Rogan lays out a blunt case: boxing's 3-judge system is structurally broken, and the judges know who the promoter wants to win. Glory's 5-judge format is the right model. Corruption doesn't have to be conscious — just knowing Usyk is the cash cow is enough to tilt the scales.
With the Usyk-Wilder fight stalling and Fury-Joshua coming too late, the real fight the world wants is the rematch. Rico is a free agent. Usyk vacated his belts. The story is unfinished and both Rogan and Rico know it. His Excellency Turki Alasheikh already called for it ringside — the question is money.
Rico texted Jason Statham during the Canelo-Crawford fight. Statham showed Rico's highlight videos to promoters. Two days later, Rico was on a call about fighting Anthony Joshua. When Joshua pulled out, Rico pitched Usyk himself — Undisputed vs. Undisputed. Usyk said yes in two weeks. The whole thing started with one text.
Every heavyweight who faced Usyk tried to move to the right — straight into his power hand. Rico and Peter Fury identified the obvious solution: move left, away from the left hand, and smother him with size. It sounds simple. Nobody had done it. That one adjustment was the foundation of 10 dominant rounds.
MMA fans boo when fights go to the ground. They love stand-up. Kickboxing is pure stand-up. Yet it barely exists in America while boxing and MMA are enormous. Rogan's diagnosis: no promotion machine. If the UFC got behind kickboxing the way they've built MMA, it would explode. The talent is there — the storytelling machine is not.
A nation of 17 million people gave the world Ramon Deckers, Peter Aerts, Badr Hari, Melvin Manhoef, Rob Kamen, Ernesto Hoost, and Rico Verhoeven. Rico's theory: the country is so small that every gym shares knowledge freely. In the US, you need a flight. In Holland, you drive 40 minutes and spar the national champion.
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