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#661 - John Kiriakou

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Pakistani Intelligence Was Following Me — And I Almost Shot the Wrong Guy

#661 - John Kiriakou · Jun 5, 2026 History

In Pakistan after 9/11, Kiriakou spotted a motorcyclist in a red helmet shadowing him across three different sightings — the CIA's definition of confirmed surveillance. Armed with a plan to kill the follower that afternoon, he paused and asked his Pakistani intelligence counterpart directly if they were surveilling him. The answer saved a man's life.

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Pakistan, Near-Miss Shooting & CIA Surveillance Training

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Returning to his Pakistan posting, Kiriakou describes developing a surveillance detection routine after noticing a red-helmeted motorcyclist — no one in Pakistan wore helmets — consistently staying in his blind spot across multiple sightings. By the CIA's own definition of surveillance (multiple sightings at time and distance), this was confirmed surveillance. He logged it in a database, took evasive routes, and armed himself with a plan: shoot the follower that afternoon. He paused at a safe house meeting to ask his Pakistani counterpart General Mohammed directly, 'Are you following me?' The general denied it, and the surveillance ceased. Weeks later Kiriakou learned the Pakistani intelligence service had assigned their worst surveillance officer to watch him because they thought nobody could be 'that nice' without ulterior motives. The near-miss — killing a friendly surveillance asset — was prevented by a single question. He closes with a reflection from his psychiatrist friend that he shows no PTSD from his career, which the psychiatrist considers 'not good.'

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