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You don't raise great kids through occasional grand gestures. It's 500 small conversations when they need you. Patrick Bet-David argues DNA matters less than the consistent presence that shapes a child's worldview — and no kidmaxing billionaire can replicate that at scale.
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Patrick reads the New York Times 'kidmaxing' story, detailing how men like Pavel Durov, Elon Musk, Greg Lindbergh, and Stefan Soloviev are using IVF and surrogacy to father unprecedented numbers of children as an extension of their legacy and genetic ambition. [1] — Patrick Bet-David "Ultra-wealthy men including Pavel Durov (100+ children via sperm donation), Elon Musk (14 known children), and Stefan Soloviev (22 children…" 1:07:00 Elon Musk reportedly joked that Durov's 100+ children represented 'rookie numbers,' and Jeffrey Epstein's interest in Nobel Prize winner sperm banks and blue-eyed donors is cited as the darker end of the same impulse. Tom wonders aloud if the New York Times realizes that 'kidmaxing' is the opposite of abortion. Adam says this is just evidence that rich men with options exercise them, but introduces a roleplay where Patrick pitches spending $10 million on 100 surrogacy babies. [1] — Patrick Bet-David "Ultra-wealthy men including Pavel Durov (100+ children via sperm donation), Elon Musk (14 known children), and Stefan Soloviev (22 children…" 1:07:00 The crew pushes back: Vinnie argues from a Christian perspective that children are a blessing to be raised, not trophies; Tom asks why not just adopt 100 children already alive; Adam invokes the 'any man can be a father, but it takes a special man to be a dad' aphorism. Patrick delivers his own philosophy: it's not genetics that shape a child, it's '500 five-minute conversations' over years of presence. [2] — Patrick Bet-David "You don't raise great kids through occasional grand gestures. It's 500 small conversations when they need you. Patrick Bet-David argues DNA…" 1:10:40 He references a Father's Webinar where 20 rules for fatherhood — including whether your children 'yearn your company years after they no longer need you' — produced the highest webinar show-ratio in Valuetainment history.
Ultra-wealthy men including Pavel Durov (100+ children via sperm donation), Elon Musk (14 known children), and Stefan Soloviev (22 children) are using surrogacy and IVF to spread their DNA at scale. The crew asks the hard question: is this fatherhood or a vanity project?
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