Podbit · 2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer
Joe DeRosa reveals he drank heavily every night in Austin during the Netflix Is A Joke Fest run, still made it to the Rose Bowl 5K because his anxiety wakes him up naturally by 9 AM every day — and he sometimes wets the bed.
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Ari Shaffir arrives having just taught a yoga class at the 5K, heat-stroked and bearded, and the dynamic immediately shifts into the philosophical and anarchic. The group swaps Shaq stories — Ari relays Brett Ernst's anecdote about Shaq spending 90 minutes playing with birthday party children and paying their tab — before pivoting to Joe Rogan's stratospheric fame and the odd experience of realizing your friends have become cultural institutions. [1] — Ari Shaffir "Ari Shaffir relays comedian Brett Ernst's story about Shaq at a restaurant: asked to say hi to children at a birthday party mid-meal, Shaq …" 50:20 Bert unpacks his therapist's framing of his narcissism: he doesn't cheat because he'd be miserable without his wife, not because he cares about her feelings, and the 5K itself is a product of that self-centered drive. The gang then reconstructs 'Fat Tom' with forensic glee — the pecan pie spiral, the hot sauce kit, the body that had 'given up' — before Ari casually drops that he regularly passes blood and has no intention of addressing it. [2] — Bert Kreischer "Bert Kreischer argues that narcissism isn't inherently bad — he only does things because of how they make him feel, including not cheating …" 55:35
Ari Shaffir relays comedian Brett Ernst's story about Shaq at a restaurant: asked to say hi to children at a birthday party mid-meal, Shaq finished eating first, then spent 90 minutes playing with the kids and paid their entire tab before leaving.
Bert Kreischer argues that narcissism isn't inherently bad — he only does things because of how they make him feel, including not cheating on his wife (he'd be miserable without her) and not talking shit about Tom (Tom hasn't done anything worth it). His therapist agrees.
Bert and Ari reconstruct 'Fat Tom' — a version of Tom Segura who was broke, binge-made pecan pies, and gained 30 pounds in a month before he knew he had money. Today's Tom has a chef and red light therapy injections. The contrast is wild.
AI nailed Andrew Huberman's vertigo-vs-low-blood-pressure diagnosis because that pattern has been reported millions of times. But every patient's liver is different and data on liver surgeries is scarce worldwide — making solo robot surgery dangerous. The rule is simple: data abundance means AI can help; data scarcity means keep the human in the loop.
Fei-Fei Li's father had liver surgery performed by a da Vinci robot guided by a surgeon. The result: 10 times less blood loss than a typical procedure. This isn't replacement — it's the gold standard of human-machine collaboration, where the human's judgment and the robot's precision combine.
US drug overdose deaths fell from 110,000 to roughly 70,000 — the biggest CDC-recorded single-year drop ever. Men's rates fell 27% in one year, and the steepest decline of all was among 15–24-year-olds, down 37%. The crisis narrative around young men needs to make room for signs of genuine progress.
Kessler thought his grief expertise would protect him. It didn't. When his son David died unexpectedly, he found himself on the floor — and eventually realized that acceptance alone wasn't enough. That unmet need became the sixth stage: finding meaning.
Grief isn't just death — it's any unwanted change. Kessler lectured at Coca-Cola and General Mills not because they had lots of funerals, but because change management is grief management. People who grieve well live well.
Witnessing someone's grief isn't just emotional support — it's an essential act of healing. Kessler argues grief is a severance and connection heals it. But real witnessing has two steps: seeing the pain AND affirming the person's capacity to recover.
Avoiding grief isn't free — it's exhausting. Kessler's beach ball metaphor nails it: pushing a small balloon down is easy, but holding a massive beach ball underwater takes constant, draining energy. Unattended feelings don't disappear; they just consume you.
Most people try to control their environment to avoid triggers. Kessler flips this entirely: triggers aren't problems to manage around — they're a detailed map to your pain and your healing. Every trigger points directly to what needs attention.
Running from pain doesn't leave it behind — it accelerates the chase. Whatever we run from pursues us, and whatever we face transforms us. Both Kessler and Lewis Howes testify to knowing both roads firsthand.
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