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Maggie Haberman: A Gross and Messy White House

Explore episode Jul 1, 2026
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Marco Rubio Brokered the CECOT Deal

Maggie Haberman: A Gross and Messy White House · Jul 1, 2026 Government

Rubio sat with El Salvador's Bukele in his palace and personally hashed out the CECOT arrangement, which was supposed to target only verified gang members. The vetting proved to be fiction — innocent people, including Venezuelans with no-deportation orders, ended up in the gulag. Rubio is not the moderate anyone hoped for.

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Elon Musk: The De Facto Co-President

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Haberman turns to one of the most astonishing periods in the book: the Musk co-presidency. Musk rejected his cramped West Wing 'hovel' and relocated to the magnificent Secretary of War suites in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, which he made his own with large video game screens. According to Haberman's reporting, he would call Trump late at night to propose cutting government entities — including, in one instance, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. His unilateral decisions often surprised Trump's own official staff. He didn't always align with Stephen Miller or Russell Vought on methods, creating internal friction. His most aggressive target was USAID — a congressionally established agency — which he effectively dismantled, leaving Marco Rubio to clean up the mess. The Musk era, Haberman notes, feels like ancient history now, but it dominated the first several months of the presidency and had lasting consequences.

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