Podbit · New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
Nick Herbig isn't even a starter, but he just became the highest-paid non-starter in NFL history. Jason Kelce — who trained with him in college and knows his brother — says Herbig is a legitimate disruptor who flashes every time he's on the field.
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Jason pivots to Nick Herbig — a Steelers backup outside linebacker he trained with in college and knows personally through his brother Nate. Herbig just became the highest-paid non-starter in NFL history, reportedly at around $100 million, and Jason vouches for it wholeheartedly, calling him a legitimate disruptor who flashes on every snap. The conversation then shifts to the Chiefs' OTAs, where Eric Bienemy has returned as offensive coordinator. Travis is electric about it. He quotes Trey Smith's devastating one-liner — 'get it together or he'll get you together' — and Patrick Mahomes' endorsement that EB's first meeting had him ready to run through a brick wall. For Travis, Bienemy's accountability-first culture is something the Chiefs have missed, and he says players unfamiliar with Bienemy haven't seen the real EB yet. He closes with a characteristically raw declaration: 'I can't wait till he motherfucks me, man.'
Steelers backup edge rusher Nick Herbig became the highest-paid NFL player who isn't a starter in league history, reportedly worth around $100 million.
Eric Bienemy returned to the Kansas City Chiefs as offensive coordinator, with Patrick Mahomes saying their first meeting 'had me ready to run through a brick wall.'
Eric Bienemy's return to Kansas City isn't just a coaching move — it's a culture correction. Travis says accountability hit differently under EB, and with Mahomes calling his first meeting 'ready to run through a brick wall,' the Chiefs are dialing back to a gear that made them a dynasty.
Jason and Travis crack open the limited New Heights x OluKai sandal collab — football stitching, contoured arch support, premium leather, and their signatures in gold on the inside. For Jason, the guy who wore sandals to the Walter Payton Man of the Year ceremony in a full suit, this is peak personal branding.
Thomas's wife deferred her CrossFit career — she's in the global top 1% of athletes — to put him through law school debt-free. He wants her to chase the dream now; she wants the emergency fund and house down payment first. On a $200K lawyer income with no debt, the opportunity cost is just a few months of slower saving.
Underground calisthenics battles are exactly like UFC meets a rap battle — 150 people crowded around a circle, fighters walking out with masks and chains, nicknames like 'Extra Money' vs 'Calisthenics the Prince,' and people throwing money and betting. The battle set: 100 burpees, 50 muscle-ups, 75 dips, 75 squats with a 65-pound dumbbell. This is the next big spectator sport.
Rico Verhoeven controlled the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion for approximately 10 rounds — and had his appeal upheld when officials admitted the fight was stopped after the bell. The result was never overturned. Rogan calls it either incompetence or corruption, and argues the money behind Usyk made an upset politically inconvenient.
Rogan lays out a blunt case: boxing's 3-judge system is structurally broken, and the judges know who the promoter wants to win. Glory's 5-judge format is the right model. Corruption doesn't have to be conscious — just knowing Usyk is the cash cow is enough to tilt the scales.
With the Usyk-Wilder fight stalling and Fury-Joshua coming too late, the real fight the world wants is the rematch. Rico is a free agent. Usyk vacated his belts. The story is unfinished and both Rogan and Rico know it. His Excellency Turki Alasheikh already called for it ringside — the question is money.
Rico texted Jason Statham during the Canelo-Crawford fight. Statham showed Rico's highlight videos to promoters. Two days later, Rico was on a call about fighting Anthony Joshua. When Joshua pulled out, Rico pitched Usyk himself — Undisputed vs. Undisputed. Usyk said yes in two weeks. The whole thing started with one text.
Every heavyweight who faced Usyk tried to move to the right — straight into his power hand. Rico and Peter Fury identified the obvious solution: move left, away from the left hand, and smother him with size. It sounds simple. Nobody had done it. That one adjustment was the foundation of 10 dominant rounds.
MMA fans boo when fights go to the ground. They love stand-up. Kickboxing is pure stand-up. Yet it barely exists in America while boxing and MMA are enormous. Rogan's diagnosis: no promotion machine. If the UFC got behind kickboxing the way they've built MMA, it would explode. The talent is there — the storytelling machine is not.
A nation of 17 million people gave the world Ramon Deckers, Peter Aerts, Badr Hari, Melvin Manhoef, Rob Kamen, Ernesto Hoost, and Rico Verhoeven. Rico's theory: the country is so small that every gym shares knowledge freely. In the US, you need a flight. In Holland, you drive 40 minutes and spar the national champion.
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