Podbit · Pardon My Take
In 2006, Lionel Messi scored his first World Cup goal at age 18 years, 11 months, wearing number 19. In 2026, Jamal Musiala scored his first World Cup goal at age 18 years, 11 months, wearing number 19. And Messi once posed with Musiala as a baby in a charity calendar photo shoot.
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Big Cat leads an enthusiastic celebration of the USMNT's 2-0 win over Australia in Seattle, which he believes may mark the first time the US has won two consecutive World Cup games. PFT praises the team's counter-pressing and notes that losing Pulisic — their best player — and still dominating speaks to the squad's depth. Hank throws cold water by pointing out the US didn't qualify for the tournament and got a favorable group as hosts — earning a brief 'fair point' acknowledgment before being shouted down. The debate transitions to America's fan culture: both Big Cat and PFT argue the US should stop copying European chant traditions and instead lean into American sports traditions like Penn State whiteouts, Renegade, and the Cameron Crazies. Max Homa admits he watched the Country Roads moment 20 times and got emotional.
The USMNT beat Australia 2-0 in Seattle, and the hosts believe it marks the first time the US has won two consecutive World Cup games.
The USMNT beat Australia 2-0 in Seattle without Christian Pulisic and the Pardon My Take crew is declaring them the best in the world. Big Cat and PFT make the case for why the World Cup bracket could set up a deep run — possibly to the semifinals.
Jamal Musiala scored his first World Cup goal at age 18 years 11 months wearing number 19 — exactly matching Lionel Messi's first World Cup goal stats in 2006.
Thomas's wife deferred her CrossFit career — she's in the global top 1% of athletes — to put him through law school debt-free. He wants her to chase the dream now; she wants the emergency fund and house down payment first. On a $200K lawyer income with no debt, the opportunity cost is just a few months of slower saving.
Underground calisthenics battles are exactly like UFC meets a rap battle — 150 people crowded around a circle, fighters walking out with masks and chains, nicknames like 'Extra Money' vs 'Calisthenics the Prince,' and people throwing money and betting. The battle set: 100 burpees, 50 muscle-ups, 75 dips, 75 squats with a 65-pound dumbbell. This is the next big spectator sport.
Rico Verhoeven controlled the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion for approximately 10 rounds — and had his appeal upheld when officials admitted the fight was stopped after the bell. The result was never overturned. Rogan calls it either incompetence or corruption, and argues the money behind Usyk made an upset politically inconvenient.
Rogan lays out a blunt case: boxing's 3-judge system is structurally broken, and the judges know who the promoter wants to win. Glory's 5-judge format is the right model. Corruption doesn't have to be conscious — just knowing Usyk is the cash cow is enough to tilt the scales.
With the Usyk-Wilder fight stalling and Fury-Joshua coming too late, the real fight the world wants is the rematch. Rico is a free agent. Usyk vacated his belts. The story is unfinished and both Rogan and Rico know it. His Excellency Turki Alasheikh already called for it ringside — the question is money.
Rico texted Jason Statham during the Canelo-Crawford fight. Statham showed Rico's highlight videos to promoters. Two days later, Rico was on a call about fighting Anthony Joshua. When Joshua pulled out, Rico pitched Usyk himself — Undisputed vs. Undisputed. Usyk said yes in two weeks. The whole thing started with one text.
Every heavyweight who faced Usyk tried to move to the right — straight into his power hand. Rico and Peter Fury identified the obvious solution: move left, away from the left hand, and smother him with size. It sounds simple. Nobody had done it. That one adjustment was the foundation of 10 dominant rounds.
MMA fans boo when fights go to the ground. They love stand-up. Kickboxing is pure stand-up. Yet it barely exists in America while boxing and MMA are enormous. Rogan's diagnosis: no promotion machine. If the UFC got behind kickboxing the way they've built MMA, it would explode. The talent is there — the storytelling machine is not.
A nation of 17 million people gave the world Ramon Deckers, Peter Aerts, Badr Hari, Melvin Manhoef, Rob Kamen, Ernesto Hoost, and Rico Verhoeven. Rico's theory: the country is so small that every gym shares knowledge freely. In the US, you need a flight. In Holland, you drive 40 minutes and spar the national champion.
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