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374. Ken Burns on the American Revolution and Empire

Explore episode Jul 4, 2026
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America Was Born in Violence

374. Ken Burns on the American Revolution and Empire · Jul 4, 2026 History

Americans relate to the Revolution in a way that is 'detached and unreal,' says historian Maya Jasanoff in the opening of Burns's film. Nobody would stand up in a boat in an ice-clogged Delaware River. The Revolution isn't a postcard — the United States is born in violence.

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Welcome & Ken Burns: America's Historian

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Anita sets the scene with precision: America marks its 250th birthday in July 2026, and there is no better guide to what the nation promised versus what it delivered than Ken Burns, whose career spans half a century of documentary filmmaking. Burns receives the flattering label 'America's Historian' with characteristic self-deprecation — he lives in a tiny village in New Hampshire, and notoriety there buys you fifty cents and a cup of coffee. The framed New Yorker cartoon in his kitchen says it all: three men burning in hell, one muttering that apparently his over 200 screen credits didn't mean a damn thing. Burns's real interest, he explains, is telling complicated stories that resist the temptation to reduce everything to a dialectic or a simple on-off switch — because the real stories are always more nuanced, and there are no true opposites in nature.

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