Empire: World History

Podbit · Empire: World History

374. Ken Burns on the American Revolution and Empire

Explore episode Jul 4, 2026

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Native Nations as Geopolitical Equals

At 14:53 · chapter starts 13:00

The film's opening sentence, Burns reveals, acknowledges that the Revolution engaged more than two dozen nations — European as well as Native American. This is not a courtesy gesture. For 150 years before the Revolution, many Native nations had been economic, military, and diplomatic players on the world stage, visiting London, Paris, and Madrid. Burns is emphatic: a tribe like the Shawnee was geopolitically as significant as the colony of Massachusetts, Virginia, England, or France. Treating Native peoples as a single undifferentiated mass is as absurd as treating all Europeans as one thing — they have distinct identities, centuries and millennia old. The Europeans arriving in North America have seven or eight generations of continental experience; the Native peoples they encounter have 600 or 700. Failing to extend proper historical dimensions to Native Americans, Burns argues, is the foundational distortion of American history.

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