Empire: World History

Podbit · Empire: World History

374. Ken Burns on the American Revolution and Empire

Explore episode Jul 4, 2026

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Washington and the Continental Empire

At 12:55 · chapter starts 12:00

Anita has done her homework: Washington uses the word 'empire' in letters to Lafayette and Hamilton alike, writing that 'it is only in our united character as an empire that our independence is acknowledged.' Burns takes the question seriously. He argues Washington's vision was not primarily about projecting power outward into a global chess game — the Founders wanted above all to govern themselves, producing citizens rather than subjects. The First Amendment's religious establishment clause, Burns notes, comes first not accidentally: they had seen what state religion produced in Europe. But coexisting with this inward-looking project of self-governance was the unmistakable knowledge that the Pacific was out there, and they wanted everything between. It is this combination — focus on internal democratic development plus unapologetic continental ambition — that defines the founding imperial vision.

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