Empire: World History

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374. Ken Burns on the American Revolution and Empire

Explore episode Jul 4, 2026

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Vietnam and the Visibility of American Empire

At 25:20 · chapter starts 25:10

Anita's question is precise: was Vietnam when America's imperial project became visible to itself? Burns agrees it was important, but corrects the premise. America's imperial project began not in Southeast Asia but with the subjugation of 300 Native American nations across the continental United States. Vietnam made that project undeniable. His own approach to the 10-episode, 18-hour documentary was to treat the universality of war seriously: pairing Marines with North Vietnamese soldiers describing the same moments in almost identical language. The series opens not with an American voice but with North Vietnamese soldier Bao Dinh's statement — 'the only people who want to know who won and who lost are the people who don't fight' — a line Burns cites as perhaps the truest thing ever said about war.

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LBJ: The Shakespearean Tragedy

374. Ken Burns on the American Revolution and Empire · Jul 4, 2026 History

LBJ alone passed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act — things his predecessor, for all his charisma, likely lacked the political muscle to achieve. Then he inherited a foreign policy apparatus from Kennedy and the buck stopped with him on Vietnam. That's the tragedy.

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