Podbit · We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson
Jo Frost's first We Need to Talk episode reached millions and triggered tens of thousands of comments — including from bereaved families who lost children to social media. She became emotional reflecting on 20 years of being embraced by the public, and why this moment feels more urgent than ever.
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In the most personal segment of the episode, Jo Frost opens up about three years of verbal bullying at secondary school. Three girls isolated her socially by threatening anyone who talked to her with the same treatment. Despite being naturally social and empathetic — even feeling sorry for her bullies — she dreaded Sundays and going back to school Monday mornings. Her parents were supportive; her father from South London told her to defend herself if necessary. Then one day in the changing room, one of the girls said something to her. Jo hit her — didn't even realise she had done it until she saw the girl's lip bleeding. The bullying stopped. She sits with this story as a professional, deeply conflicted: she wants early intervention to prevent such moments, but she is also honest enough to say that sometimes life doesn't follow theory, and that sometimes fighting back is what it takes.[1]
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